Or Somewhere else in london, best city on earth, maybe

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:40, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

But London isn't London.
When you ask someone whereabouts in London they live, they inevitably mention some mongy suburb, so far from the centre of London that it would be the equivalent of someone in Warrington saying they live next door to me in Liverpool. You live miles away from your mates who also live in 'London' and life stops at the last tube train. You'd have to be a millionaire, or Swipe at the least, to enjoy living in actual London.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:47, Reply)

i enjoy living in london...
mates aren't far away and town is 20 mins away. yes there are many suburbs etc, but that's a different story
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:48, Reply)

20 mins walk?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:49, Reply)

no course not, it's a metropolis, you need to think differently to other towns and cities

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:53, Reply)

I don't.
I like to be 20 mins walk from the middle.
Which is why I would have to be a millionaire to live in London.
When I was growing up the museum, the huuuge library, the art gallery, one theatre and a concert hall were literally behind my house.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:55, Reply)

Who said anything about walking?
I live 20 minutes walk to the nearest paper shop at the moment, it would be quicker for me to get from North to South London by tube than to get to anywhere I could speak to anyone/buy anything without driving from where I am now.

If you don't like London, or it's not for you, that's fine, but 'London isn't London' is just...weird...

/off high horse now, sorry.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:53, Reply)

I have enjoyed living in London, it's not where I want to raise my family though.
Over the last few weeks:

Mentally ill neighbour walking around naked outside. Police did nothing.
Drug deals taking place around the corner.
I saw 2 kids trying to steal a motorbike off our shared driveway a couple of nights ago.
Sick of the sirens.
Some bloke had his cock out pissing the in the street. At 2.30 in the afternoon.
Street drinkers down the road constantly yelling abuse.

And this is in a supposedly "nice" part of London (Queens Park).
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:50, Reply)

Best city on Earth. Ahem.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:52, Reply)

you get shit in all cities to be fair
Paris sticks of piss, barcelona you'll get pick pocketed, Rome you'll have to fight of Romanian beggers and berlin some one will invite you round for "coffee" then shit on your chest
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:55, Reply)

I decided long ago
never to live in anyone's shadow, if I fail...wait...

Sorry, what I meant was I decided long ago that you can't convince someone who doesn't 'feel' it that London is great, just like you can't convince someone who thinks it is that they are wrong.

I love it, I'd hate to be any further away than I am now, but my missus would move to the country and never have to deal with London again if she had the chance. And never the twain shall meet.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:59, Reply)

I really like London as a city, by the way.
But living there wouldn't meet my requirements unless I was minted.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:06, Reply)

yeah, that's fair enough.
I can understand that, and actually that's why I am back in Essex these days instead of South London where I spent years. Although if I were single (and thought I'd stay sober) I'd be back in a heartbeat.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:07, Reply)

London
is the worst of britain in one handy package
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:02, Reply)

Apart from the motorbike,
all of those incidents involved me.

Soz.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:31, Reply)

That's the thing though, distance is irrelivent when working out how far someone is when using public transport.
The metric to count on is how long it'll take to get to a place, and with the tube system, a 20-30 minute journey can get you very far.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:59, Reply)

I don't really like public transport. I like walking along main roads to feel safe.
I don't like trains stations or suburbs. Or teenagers.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:07, Reply)

Hi Nan, whats for tea?
I SAID WHAT'S FOR TEA
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:12, Reply)

I consider the tube a safe-haven, it's proper rare to be actually mugged on a tube, too much security, no where to run away.
London is a bit different to most citys I think, in most cities the further out you go (but still in the city) the rougher it is.... but london works in like pockets of roughness.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:17, Reply)

I would imagine that I earn considerably less than Swipe,
yet live in Zone 1, 1.6 miles (20 min walk) from Covent Garden, 1.3 to Westminster etc. Tottenham Court Road/Soho is a 20 minute off peak bus journey or a sprightly 40 minute walk or a 10 minute cycle.

It's how and where you look - I'm not surrounded by feral youths with knives or ever felt that my area is dodgy.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 11:04, Reply)

I'd live in London if I were enormously wealthy
It is only the best city on earth if you have got the money to enjoy it.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:48, Reply)

Isn't that true of everywhere?

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:49, Reply)

No, in the rest of the country you can live quite well on the average wage.
In London you can earn well above the average wage yet still have to live in a shoebox, in a really shitty area, surrounded by poor people with knives and murderous glints in their eyes. All the culture, restaurants and great places to go are pointless if you can't afford them.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 8:54, Reply)

But mo' money helps wherever you live.
And in London you have to measure by avg London salary, not the national average. There are a lot of people who earn less than the national avg in London, which prices them out of almost everything.

Alot of the Londoners on here have worthwhile vocational jobs that don't pay that well, whereas people like Swipe have a high salaried job but little societal respect.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:01, Reply)

It is possible to earn well and have respect for the rest of society.
apparently.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:03, Reply)

I have zero societal respect, but i have fridge full of tasty wine

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:03, Reply)

It does sound as though you are agreeing with me here.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:05, Reply)

Except for the bit about living like a King on the average wage everywhere but London.
;-)
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 9:21, Reply)

Worthwhile vocational jobs!!
Hahahahhahahaa *breathes* hahahahahahaha
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Tue 15 Nov 2011, 11:06, Reply)