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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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which is the crux of my problem with AC/DC. Anyway the album sales thing only underlines my original point; the right to headline is about popularity, not quality. Selling a lot of albums doesn't make you not shit. Oasis sold a lot of records.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:13, 3 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
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That accusation could be levelled far more accurately at Combichrist or other industrial bands.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:16, Reply)
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they have a similar sound and style because it's the same band, in the same way that you can tell a Rush track you've not heard before having heard Spirit of Radio and Tom Sawyer, but the actual songs aren't the same.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:21, Reply)
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but you don't like them, so you don't want to invest time in picking out said differences.
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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:27, Reply)
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I disagree. Also; Hawkwind are shit.
OMLG! Individual human beings having different viewpoints shocker! Someone call Bella, the system is on the verge of smashability.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:32, Reply)
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That's where your argument falls down.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:36, Reply)
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You know what else, CombiChrist are much better than Jimi Hendrix
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:39, Reply)
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Go and buy your daughter an ice cream. Oh wait, better not, you can't afford it, and she's with her mother.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:25, Reply)
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she should have waited until he was older
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:33, Reply)
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you had all the anaesthesia ready to go, too :(
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:37, Reply)
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And I disagree on every song sounding the same.
However, that's my opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:16, Reply)
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I was never arguing against AC/DC being popular - they've achieved a phenomenal amount, I just don't like them
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:19, Reply)
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I just don't think it's right for you to say they don't deserve to headline a festival is all, as they've shown, they clearly deserve it.
However, as I say, to each, their own.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:20, Reply)
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I didn't mean they don't deserve to headline - clearly they do. My point was that it's about popularity not quality, in response to Al's suggestion that FNM don't deserve to headline because he doesn't like them.
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but I just don't see where the devotion comes from. Everyone raves about Angel Dust, but apart from Be Aggressive none of the songs are really that good, I don't even think Midlife Crisis deserves the ratings it gets.
I don't feel they have a sufficiently large catalogue of good songs that a large crowd would want to see, hence they shouldn't be headlining.
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but there are many thousands of people who would disagree with me, just as there are thousands who would disagree with you about FNM. Saying that a band aren't good enough to headline is a redundant notion unless they haven't shifted any units, which FNM obviously did.
The Smashing Pumpkins headling Reading a few years back, that absolutely gobsmacked me. Up until that point I genuinely didn't realise they had such a following because they were so eye-wateringly awful. But then, the only time I went to Reading Suede were headlining.
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Also, Smashing Pumpkins headling something falls into the FNM situation. They simply shouldn't have been headling.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:39, Reply)
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You should be allowed to decide who headlines every festival according to your personal opinion, regardless of fan base or record sales?
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:43, Reply)
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I'd like a 'no shit music' policy at all festivals. Decided on by me.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:44, Reply)
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every five years
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:47, Reply)
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I've got it all worked out.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:54, Reply)
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when there's only one person in attendance, and he doesn't have any beer money?
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I'm not subbing his beer consumption though.
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( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:44, Reply)
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If you sell more albums its because more people wanted to buy them. If more people wanted to buy your album, then you're better at doing what you do (sale records) than someone who sales less.
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Being better at making records people want to buy, and seeing that reflected in record sales, is a completely different principle to the notion of "quality" which is entirely subjective.
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 11:52, Reply)
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But it is true that there is no accounting for tastes.
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but you know what I mean. However amateurish a band may sound to you or I, there's always someone (usually Monty) who considers them to be a "raw, unpolished gem"
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It is entirely possible for highly technically accomplished musicians to produce worthy music, but it is most definitely not a pre-requisite.
And anyone who tries to use a band or musician's virtuosity on their instruments to prove their musical worth is probably already losing the argument.
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Moving Pictures by Rush is a great example of a technically accomplished band recognising the need to write enjoyable songs as opposed to just demonstrating their virtuosity.
Dreamtheater, on the other hand, are impressive for the first 30 seconds before you realise the whole fucking album goes on in that vein.
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I'll be honest, I know bugger all about reggae, never really been able to get into it. Can you recommend any decent-but-not-too-obscure reggae tunes with good basslines?
One of my students wants to learn about reggae basslines, and I'd prefer not to have to trawl through "no woman no fucking cry" with him.
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I've only really dipped my toe into reggae, but if it is bass you are after then dub is probably the place to look.
The best two dub records I know of (Monty, with his greater knowledge of this genre may disagree) are Augustus Pablo/King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown and Lee Scratch Perry/Super Ape.
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Jimmy Cliff... Firstly by watching The Harder they Come, this has music from Jimmy himself along with Desmond Decker and The Slickers
( , Thu 29 Mar 2012, 13:52, Reply)
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