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alright dozer.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 19:57, 1 reply, 12 years ago)
alright Windington
You know that music I gazzed you? I listened to some Labradford earlier, it's a similar feel.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 19:59, Reply)
A friend of mine is interviewing all the members of labradford for a piece he is writing for the quietus.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:08, Reply)
that's cool.
A friend of mine has been asked to DJ on the Boiler Room.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:11, Reply)
haha "DJ"
so, put some CDs in a CD player and press play then

haha
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:24, Reply)
Frank will you post some Jimmy Hendix guitar stuff?

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:30, Reply)
here's a surprising Frank fact, I do not like and have never liked Hendrix

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:55, Reply)
But he can play a mean guitar

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:58, Reply)
well no, he's dead

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:07, Reply)
OK could
Did....Used to...
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:11, Reply)
yes, but his songs were shit
I mean, fair play if you like guitar solos

but really

his songs were for the most part shit
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:25, Reply)
It's all about the Guitar

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:28, Reply)
yes
but

his songs were shit
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:28, Reply)
his covers were superb.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:29, Reply)
[citation required]

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:30, Reply)
Fuck if PD is white knighting me.....YOU WON

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:34, Reply)
I'm not white knighting anyone.
Hendrix's cover versions were, on the whole, superb. If anything, I'm agreeing with Frank, Hendrix's own songs, in the main, aren't a patch on the covers.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:40, Reply)
[citation required]

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:43, Reply)
oh wait, you mean Wild Thing?
or ... let me check ... Johnny B Goode?

soz, those are shit
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:44, Reply)
All Along the Watchtower
Hey Joe

I'm tired, that's just two. Can't think of any more off the top of my head.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:46, Reply)
is Hey Joe really great? really?
I thought the intro was good, until I found out he nicked it

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fu3jd05R-I

mind you, that tune also gave Deep Purple the riff to Black Night
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:49, Reply)
Hey Joe's a great tune.
I fucking love Johnny Cash as well, he was a man who made other people's songs his own.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:52, Reply)
We have so much in common !

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:59, Reply)
dunno, fairly certain I'd remember if I ever looked in the pan and saw a bloody mass of my own intestines staring up at me after my morning dump
but hey, believe what you want you sinister little inveterate masturbator
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:25, Reply)
you know what frank.
This time, I agree with you.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:33, Reply)
GET THEE TO MUMSNET

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:37, Reply)
there's a lot more to it than that, Frank

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:44, Reply)
Have you seen Franks mad Guitar skillz? 111o111

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:45, Reply)
admit it, you're an iPod shuffle in expensive shoes

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:56, Reply)

expensive clown
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:57, Reply)
no, shuffle is a random selection.
DJing is not random.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:30, Reply)
if you're using real records, then I agree,
If you're just using cds and beat matching then it's fairly straightforward if you have a decent and ranged music taste
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 20:58, Reply)
and here you hit on dozer's Achilles heel.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:11, Reply)
No picking on PD he's had a rough day

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:12, Reply)
I like dozer.
he's alright really.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:15, Reply)
I like everyone on this site EVEN you

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:16, Reply)
nah, it's OK, you can keep it.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:19, Reply)
Lost me there Wilf??????
keep what?
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:20, Reply)
you always are

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:22, Reply)
O.................K.....................

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:23, Reply)
Fuck off hippy

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:27, Reply)
I'm very far from being a Hippy
But I have mellowed in my old age
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:30, Reply)
I could show you a picture that says different.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:36, Reply)
DO IT!

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:48, Reply)
COPY ME IN

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:49, Reply)
nah, CDJs don't make it that much easier. you still need to cue, match speeds, keep the tracks in sync
And the actual mixing part isn't that difficult. Yeah, there are DJs like Zabiela and Dave Clarke who are incredibly skilled, but most of DJing us about selection and sequencing. Shit hot mixing with shit tunes is still a shit DJ, great tunes with patchy skills is much more preferable. Obviously, the best case scenario is impeccable skills with impeccable selection, and creative mixing does bring a lit more to the table than just lining up the kick drums, knocking off the bass, bringing it in for 16 bars, switching the bass over and bringing it out.

Fuck it Windypops, I've never let you down with links to tunes, I'll hook you up to some cracking mixes. I expect you'll prefer breaks and techno to house.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:27, Reply)
so, you think which CD to press play on
then while it's playing

you think which CD to play next

shit, I'm in awe, you guys are like concert pianists or something
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:29, Reply)
there's more to it than that.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:31, Reply)
I'm a psytrance man, techno I'm not in to.
I guess maybe I don't understand it, but what you described doesn't sound that hard.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:31, Reply)
the 16 bars, swap bass, cut thing is simple
But there are plenty of incredibly creative DJs doing very complicated things with time signatures and shit.

You fancy linkage?
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:34, Reply)
no

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:34, Reply)
I was asking Windypops.
Soz Frank. Maybe another time.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:37, Reply)
yes

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:52, Reply)
nah, I linked WP.
I like him.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:53, Reply)
OUCH

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:54, Reply)
I know, man, I know.
I'm a pretty cruel guy.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:55, Reply)
One day you will blossom into a beautiful butterfly

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:58, Reply)
if it's matching time signatures that are complimentary but not conventionally joined,
I'll stick to live stuff. I'm more impressed by a band using crazy time signatures, than a man who can hear them and mix them.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:42, Reply)
what's a "crazy" time signature?

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:58, Reply)
how are time signatures "complimentary" ?
how are they "conventionally joined"?

there's so much I could learn from this thread
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:59, Reply)
don't be a dick frank.
With a bit if skill 4-4 can blend to a 7-8, but it's hard work. Zappa loved doing bars of 8-8 for 3 then a 9-8 then back to 8-8 then 4-8 5-8 8-8

Timr signatures are fluid.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:04, Reply)
oh, and polymetrics, and off set triples.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:07, Reply)
Drum n bass used to have loads of rhythmic complexity
It went all loop based.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:10, Reply)
what are those?

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:12, Reply)
Google it.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:14, Reply)
I did, it just took to me "plymetrics" which looks like aerobics

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:15, Reply)
and "offset triples" seems to be some kind of valve
I'm lost here
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:17, Reply)
I don't understand, in what way is a time signature fluid?

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:11, Reply)
1234567 1, 2, 3, 4
that's not really hard work
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:12, Reply)
it doesn't matter.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:14, Reply)
I'm trying to learn here and you're not helping me
share your wisdom, teach me these secrets please
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:16, Reply)
wait, I get it now
1234567 1, 2, 3, 4

is when they're "conventionally joined" but

1234567 NIGNOG BANANA 1, 2, 3, 4

would be unconventional right? am I learning now? this is fun
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:18, Reply)
I'm ready to open my offset triple valve now and get my plymetric leotard on

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:19, Reply)
1234567 I LIKE THAT JACKET YOU'RE WEARING 1, 2, 3, 4
must be complimentary time signatures

I understand now! thank you so much!
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:21, Reply)
isn't 8/8 just 4/4 with eighth notes?
and 4/8, isn't that the same thing in 2/4?

I don't know really, I'm just talking about things I don't fully understand, I might throw a long word in in a minute
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:15, Reply)
no.

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:21, Reply)
oh
sorry

what's the difference then?
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:22, Reply)
because I thought a bar of 4/4 had eight eighth notes in it

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:23, Reply)
9 bar has loads of 8ths in em DERRRRRRRRRRR

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:26, Reply)
I don't even know what that means

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:27, Reply)
YES YOU DO
ADMIT IT DAMMIT
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:37, Reply)
so why classify things as 4/8 if there is no such thing?
It's about the pulse of the music. It's more prominent in classical pieces, but it's to do with phrasing. You know this shit.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:28, Reply)
hey, I was only asking

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:32, Reply)
you know better frank.
I'm an idiot pretending to know about music by posting long words. I really only play kazoo.
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 22:23, Reply)
PD stop messing about and agree with somebody for once
I MEAN JUST ONCE WOULD THAT HURT?
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:32, Reply)
I agree with Tangers

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:34, Reply)
ok do that thing
and post it
(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:36, Reply)
admittedly, I do on occasion put the CD in upside down but then I'm not a professional

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:07, Reply)
B sides aint what they used to be

(, Wed 6 Mar 2013, 21:09, Reply)

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