The problem was with the manifesto that Salmond
sent out at the start, in that he essentially said which bits he wanted to keep and which bits he didn't. Forgetting that they don't actually get to say which bits they keep if they leave. To then accuse Westminster of bullying was laughable as that seems to have been his drum from the very start. It is laughable that its has even got this far without a lot of issues being resolved and I feel that the Scots are getting a very poor deal from this as they are being asked to vote on something that will majorly affect them without many key issues being sorted. A simple Och it will be fine fuck the English from the SNP is not a reason to decide your countries future.

Alt: I have seen many fine sex based documentaries
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 10:53, 2 replies, latest was 11 years ago)

The main problem is he never really expected it to get this far.
Now that it has, he's panicking.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 10:56, Reply)

He makes me sick.
I can't even look at the cunt. Like Gordon Brown who has been SILENT on the issue. A former British Prime Minister.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 10:58, Reply)

that is how he sounds the most sensible, though
god he was a prick.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:14, Reply)

Gordon Brown texture like sun
lays me down through my mind he runs
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:20, Reply)

I like Gordon Brown.
Circumstances kind of ruined things for him and his desire to be Prime Minister clouded his judgement too much in the end.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:26, Reply)

what did you like about him, exactly?
the recession? or flogging off the gold reserves at rock bottom prices? or any of his other amazing actions that helped us all so very much?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:28, Reply)

You think that Gordon Brown caused the global recession?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:30, Reply)

i would put nothing past that bonk-eyed, power-mad flid
MAKE ME PRIME MINISTER, TONY. IGNORE THE FACT THAT NOT ONE FECKER VOTED FOR ME, AND QUITE CLEARLY THEY ALL HATE ME BECAUSE I'M A BONK-EYED FLID.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:33, Reply)

Ignoring your obvious mistake (we don't vote for Prime Ministers), I agree it was a mistake not to call an election after he took over the leadership.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:35, Reply)

That was funny and deeply tragic. The amount of know-nothing morons
that screeched about not having voted in Brown, when they hadn't voted in Blair, either.
( Kroney, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:40, Reply)

you say that, and technically it's of course true
but you can't deny that is how people think. and that was the point that brown either deliberately or dumbly overlooked: he didn't realise or didn't care that people didn't like him; he was going to be PM regardless.

result? the most unpopular PM ever.

still, at least we got the comedy gold of him slagging off a pensioner and then being stupid enough to be filmed talking about it because he thought he was on the radio.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:50, Reply)

I think Eden was the most unpopular PM while in office
And stop the Gold thing you are wrong
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:06, Reply)

He'd have been much better off going
"Yes, I called her a bigot. Because she clearly is, and I don't like bigots."

He lacked the balls, sadly.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:08, Reply)

Man who is not media friendly in media gaff shock

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:09, Reply)

It was painful to watch when his advisors tried to get him to smile more

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:13, Reply)

I think they just wired up the corner of his mouth and shocked him when they wanted it to happen
He should have played up on the disabled card more
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:29, Reply)

He could have nipped this whole situation in the bud, simply by giving her a straight answer to her question:
Bigoted lady: "Where are all these Eastern Europeans coming from?"
Gordon: "Eastern Europe."
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:15, Reply)

"Light touch" regulation of the banks didn't help.
RBS was biggest bank in the world in 2008. How the shuddering fuck did that happen?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:35, Reply)

He and Tone did a bit of dealing with the devil in order to succeed, it's true.
But it is lazy Tory rhetoric to focus on silly things Labour did (acting more like Conservatives) and to ignore the great deal of good that they did.
They were far from perfect, but at least they were trying to effect a change for the better.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:39, Reply)

er
no, no they were not. they were simply seeking personal gain. look how much money the pair of them have made off the back of their careers. they sicken me, a truly slimy and reprehensible pair of fucktards.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:49, Reply)

So they were politicians then

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:51, Reply)

well, yeah. this.
there are very few politicians that are worth of respect. there's....

and..........
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:56, Reply)

^^this is bollocks.
The money is always a bi-product of high office.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:51, Reply)

yeah but that's why they do it
so to say "they were just trying to do their best" is bollocks. they were seeking power and as much personal gain as possible.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:53, Reply)

Same as any other job.
ANY OTHER JOB.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:54, Reply)

but nobody else pretends that they have a bleeding heart and want to help the people
only politicians. and those 2 more than any other.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:54, Reply)

+lawyers

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:00, Reply)

was it?
Surely it was Citi, not RBS?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:57, Reply)

He was instrumental in bailing out the banks to stop the freefall
The gold reserves thing is a fucking stupid statement to make as the price was correct at the time of sale... at that time no one would have expected the price to sky rocket as it did, the gold price going up was a direct result of the recession as people put their money into it artificially inflating its value.

Gordon Brown for all his faults was a superb politician and one of the best chancellors in years, if you look at the actual figures rather than the "gap" figures that George used you will see that he generated one of the longest periods of growth in the UK
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:38, Reply)

he's a bonk-eyed flid
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/thomaspascoe/100018367/revealed-why-gordon-brown-sold-britains-gold-at-a-knock-down-price/
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:52, Reply)

still doesnt change the fact that they were sold at the market value at the time
comparing a price of $300 in 2000 to £1600 in 2012 is fucking stupid and you know it.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:58, Reply)

Also you can compare it to successive Tory gov's
selling national utilities
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:59, Reply)

this is exactly correct

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:59, Reply)

^this man knows onions^

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:00, Reply)

I liked it when he smashed that bird in the face with a phone or whatever

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:39, Reply)

Gordon CLOWN more like!!!!
( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:22, Reply)

HAVEN'T YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:28, Reply)

I DUN IT SMALL

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:36, Reply)

If you think that a vote for independence = a vote for the SNP, you're a bit thick.
It's a lot of shouting on both sides really; the no campaign is running with scaremongering whereas the yes campaign does seem to be very 'it'll all be fine' without backing everything up.

I'm English but I live in Scotland, I was against it but every time the tories make a decision I lean a little more towards yes.

Plus whilst Scotland may not keep the pound, it also wouldn't have to keep George Osbourne, so it's alright really.
( Slippery Mick ‏, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:40, Reply)

Yeah, I wouldn't mind independence from our current administration

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:46, Reply)

Indeed, the thing is the thing our current administration are doing doesn't seem to be very reversible.
And some of the things they're doing around civil liberties are genuinely terrifying (IPSA's and whatnot).
( Slippery Mick ‏, Thu 13 Feb 2014, 11:48, Reply)