Stupid fucking telcos
One for the techies, or IS managers who have to deal with Telcos on a regular basis. Details in reply
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:02, 41 replies, latest was 17 years ago)

/waits for details.

(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:04, Reply)

F5
F5
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:05, Reply)

f5
f5
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:07, Reply)

*has Mac*
*cmd-R*
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:09, Reply)

*sighs*
*drums fingernails*
*looks at watch*
*presses f5*

*decides to stop being such an impatient bitch and waits patiently*
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:09, Reply)

this is not interesting
unless you are involved in this industry!!
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:10, Reply)

and
probably not even then. Just needed a rant.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:11, Reply)

rants are fine,
I just don't have the brain power to cope with this at the moment.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:19, Reply)

BT
Right. Got 2 jobs at the same site. An ISDN30, and an E1 from Verizon. Both require Openreach to go to site, and install them.

Engineer phones from site, he's there to do the ISDN30. He says he's got the job to do the E1 tomorrow, he'll crack on and just do both together, when he comes back tomorrow, should be a doddle to finish off.

Landlord of the site decides to not allow access to the comms room, fair play, we'll terminate in our office directly. BT Openreach engineer starts running cables from the DP in to our office anyway, the demarcation change is no big deal.

Verizon get wind, phone me up. Demarc has changed, we'll have to cancel the E1 job, re survey the site, re quote, schedule in an engineer. 30-40 days to do this.

BT openreach guy calls me back, he's done the ISDN, its tested fine, the E1 is ready for tomorrow. I explain the Verizon call, he says, well I'm ready to go, just exchange work required now, its almost ready for handover to Verizon.

Verizon come back to me 18 days later to say they want to schedule a new site survey. I tell them the above. They go away.

This was in march. I've just got the date for installation - beginning of July, latest, the 12th.

So BT, have been utterly fantastic - makes a change. Verizon, are cocksuckers. Absolutely unable to deal with the world of business, or reality in anyway, its like this every single time. I am going to go on a rampage with a high velocity rifle in their offices one day, and no one will really mind. They'll talk about me on the news etc, and no one can say it out loud, but everyone will know; they deserved it.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:10, Reply)

Why do people still use ISDN?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:12, Reply)

ISDN
Is extensively used for voice. If you work for a company, that has a phone system, it will probably use ISDN.

But no one really uses it for data.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:18, Reply)

Oooh, ok then.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:36, Reply)

oh gosh it's like Falling Down all over again,
just with meaningless garble I don't understand.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:13, Reply)

I love that movie.
Needs more guns, though.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:23, Reply)

but
He's got all the guns in the world.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:26, Reply)

wait what "guns" are you talking about?
/confused.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:29, Reply)

it's a quote from falling down.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:33, Reply)

I haven't seen it in years.
I should though - I really liked it.
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:39, Reply)

I don't really understand this
but I have now learned that Verizon operate in the UK. I thought they were just a US cellular provider.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:14, Reply)

You have my sympathy
I deal with BT on a daily basis...

pain in the arse
(CheatingRabbit, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 20:35, Reply)

Two more sleeps 'till iPhone 3G-S 32GB =DDDD
Oh man, I wish my life wasn't validated by comerical products.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:10, Reply)

Or by Fischer Price My First Electronics equipment...

(Potty Jag har smör i min rumpspringa, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:12, Reply)

Aside the 'average' camera, I can't think of anything wrong with it.
It can do pretty much anything any other phone can do, and a lot more.

Plus I really want to develop something for it.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:15, Reply)

Can you
"right-click" yet?
( Cawl, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:18, Reply)

I can't get on with OSX, dispite a lot of my job being photography and design.
Can you Pinch and Spin? Actually, you probably can, I'm waiting for symaatics to release drivers for my laptop for all that.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:25, Reply)

Lost me a little there...
I'd hear that with the iphone it wasn't possible to "right-click" stuff online. Or was it copy and paste? I can't remember!
Whichever it was, sounded annoying!

The pinch and spin stuff is rather sexy though!
( Cawl, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:28, Reply)

Copy'n'paste, but they've got that now, along with RichText C&P.
Macs can 'pinch', 'Rotate' and 'swipe'... so you use two-fingers to 'pinch' an object and zoom in, or use one finger still with the other one moving, to re-orientate an object.

But Synaptics now have that: www.synaptics.com/solutions/technology/gestures
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:33, Reply)

Can it suport Flash and Java yet?

( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 12:16, Reply)

do
you have an existing iphone under contract? Do you know you cant upgrade, without paying the remainder of your current contract first? Its a bit shit.

I have a 3G one, I wont buy another one. Its been meh. Sick of having to jailbreak it just to get it do normal stuff.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:19, Reply)

Contract ran out on the 5th of this month, with an epic bill of just under £1400 (they gave me credit for the vast majority of it though ;)
=D
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:23, Reply)

HTC magic
Runs Google Android, does pretty much what the iPhone can do, with the advantage of being an open platform (so you can get apps from places other than the official store without jailbreaking) and being able to multitask. And it's cheaper too. (only available on Vodafone at the moment, though there are other Android handsets around the corner)
( Tedium Alduce me to interlow myself., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:19, Reply)

I've only briefly used Android.
But everything feels a bit, I donno, just not as slick.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:36, Reply)

i think
the apple fanboism actually genuinely scares me now. I put them up there with scientologists, or Michael Jackson fans. People who queue, outside shops, for anything, are demented.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:22, Reply)

I'm not really an Apple fanboy, I don't get on with OSX.
This is their one product I really like.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:37, Reply)

sql
UPDATE ILIKETHIS
SET b3tanuser = Sandettie Light Vessel Automatic, OTPost = 454729
( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 12:23, Reply)

Much as I like my Apple kit
I have absolutely no desire for an iPhone, or indeed any smart phone.

My little Nokia thingy makes phone calls well, and allows me to send (and indeed forward) text messages. I don't really need anything else from a mobile phone.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:16, Reply)

My sony ericsson has all these functions,
I've only ever used the camera, call, and text buttons. :S
(Poppet some assembly required., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:18, Reply)

The only apple stuff I own is a Touch, and it's the best PDA I can think off.
Although all smart phones can do this, the way it clouds with Google is great.
The way you can call from apps, like the Facebook one, is fantastic.
The games on it are way better than the DS or PSP.
The media playing is second-to-none.
Chicks totally dig guys who have apple products.

Now they've opened up Bluetooth properly, allowed Teethering* and added Notifications.... it's everything I want in a phone.

I got to admit though, if the Pre was out in the UK, that would be a serious competitor. Ditto with N97.


* That was the only reason why I didn't get the 3G.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:22, Reply)

You cant tether
an iTouch.

When you tether an iphone 3g to a laptop (possible for years with a jailbroken phone) you see how damn fast O2 3G speeds really are. Its like good broadband. Its so slow on the iphone (and other phones) because the processors are far slower than your phone.

The worst aspect of the iphone for me is the web browsing. Its endlessly frustrating and feels like web access in 1996.


edit, sorry you talked about tethering to a phone. soz.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:26, Reply)

O2 are accepting teethering on the 3.0 software now, so that's why I'm going with the iPhone now and not before.
Before, I used JoikoHotSpot on my N82 to get my other devices online.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 11:35, Reply)

youre joking right?
* 3GB Bolt On = £14.68 a month, Wi-Fi is Unlimited in 5,000 hotspots via The Cloud, You need to have it for at least 30 days, if you go over your bundle plan it will cost you 19.6p a MB.
* 10GB Bolt On = £29.36 a month, Wi-Fi is Unlimited in 5,000 hotspots via The Cloud, You need to have it for at least 30 days, if you go over your bundle plan it will cost you 19.6p a MB.

Charging for something that already costs them nothing. Its appalling.
( I have run out of coke is a little sweaty, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 14:51, Reply)