Not as important as the roads and pedestrian systems in Milton Keynes I'll grant you...
www.virtualfestivals.com/latest/features/7066/-/U2-if-you-want-to-but-Ill-be-elsewhere
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:03, 92 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Hahahah
According to that article 'U2 lack the charm of David Bowie' - I'd say they had precisely the same charm as David Bowie, in fucking spades.


But quite why you're posting this shit when there are 19th Century pubs to be cycled to, I really don't fucking know.

ffs
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:05, Reply)

naa, they are much worse
bowie is less in your face
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:11, Reply)

Thank God for that

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:12, Reply)

I think it's a good thing,
they're headlining friday which is arguably the lowest of the headline days. Which means there's a chance that saturday and sundays headliners will be even "bigger"
(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:13, Reply)

but they are the biggest band in the world!
the article has it right. they have been far from their best for at least 15 years
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:15, Reply)

No matter how much you hate them
they're still by most measures a big name band.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:16, Reply)

This is the biggest band in the world
www.misfats.com/flyers/060618210605.jpg
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:19, Reply)

they are a big name band
no doubt about it.

it's the repeated assurances that they are the biggest band in the world every time they are mentioned, coupled with their mediocre music (it's not actually bad, it's average), the glowing reviews they get from most music press, despite the mediocrity and their annoying political/environmental agenda
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:21, Reply)

You're making the mistake of reading the music press there.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:23, Reply)

I don't read any
I don't care what some idiot journalist thinks about music.

see the quotes on the tv ads and in papers and stuff though
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:27, Reply)

If you don't care what they think why bring it up as a reason to be annoyed at U2

(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:34, Reply)

ok, it's more a reason to be annoyed at the music press
it means that either a) they don't know about music, b) they don't listen to the stuff they review or c) they are sucking U2s's cocks.

and despite not caring what they say, people being shit at their job, either by being stupid, or deliberately, is annoying
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:38, Reply)

d) their opinions* are different to yours.
* professional opinions rather than your amature ones
(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:49, Reply)

I don't really think you can have a professional opinion on music in that way

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:04, Reply)

Well, I would consider a music critic's opinion professional,
but that's not the point, the inability of some on here to realise that people can listen to the same piece of music and have totally conflicting ideas about the quality is pretty fucking autism.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:06, Reply)

I do understand what you are saying
it's the level of hype that makes this a (smallish) issue for me.

I can recognise good song writing and such, even if I don't like the music itself, and I think that U2s recent stuff is as amateurish as a lot of stuff I hear from unsigned bands all the time.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:10, Reply)

AC/DC would be my choice
I don't suppose the middle-of-the-road benders who attend Glasters these days would like them, but I would.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:21, Reply)

This begs the question

What would your headliners be ina perfect world?

Metallica
Muse
Radiohead

See, it's not about your favourite bands necessarily, but who is best at a festival...I feel like there should be something a bit more dancy in there.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:18, Reply)

Bowie
Dylan
Stones
AC/DC
Led Zepplin
(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:21, Reply)

yeah but...

Is Dylan a festival singer? Would he be swamped by the stage and enormous crowd?

the others yes, but I feel a mixture of contempory and older bands give s good mix and keeps a festival relevant.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:24, Reply)

I think Dylan would draw a massive crowd
I hope he would anyway, and I would love to see all 8+ minutes of Hurricane live.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:26, Reply)

he'd draw
a massive handful of my shit in his face, in an ideal world...
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:30, Reply)

some mates saw him at a festival in the last few years
said he was fucking awful. and these are big dylan fans
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:26, Reply)

best acts I've seen at a festival have been (in no particular order)
metallica
iron maiden
white stripes
massive attack
manu chao
primal scream
alice in chains
chilli peppers

If I could choose any though, AC/DC and Zeppelin would be in there.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:25, Reply)

This is a good list

very rock heavy, I quite like the variety you can get at festicals, bit of rock, metal, maybe some hip-hop and dance later in the evening.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:29, Reply)

was just listing the ones who put on the best show
chemical brothers get an honourable mention, as does John Digweed, but that may have been because I was stuffed to the gills with mushrooms
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:30, Reply)

I would happily add Pearl Jam and Slayer for a bit of punch

this is not a question that can ever really be answered, must be fun to put on a festival when you land a band that you really wanted
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:33, Reply)

yeah, Pearl Jam would be good
There were a lot of screamy metal bands at Sonisphere, not really my cup of tea. Machine Head were shit. Yet they have like a billion rabid fans.

also, Slipknot inexplicably have a huge number of fans. so much so that when the singer did an acoustic set of his new solo project stuff it drew a massive crowd who didn't seem to recognise that it was fucking awful.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:35, Reply)

The singer out of Slipknot went to Rome to see the Pope
...and the Pope said to his aide:
"Whooo the fuckin' 'ell are Sliiipknot
Whooo the fuckin' 'ell are Sliiipknot
Whooo the fuckin' 'ell are Slipknot
in relation to me getting out of bed?"
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:42, Reply)

haha
probably not as bad as Linking Park (who are shit anyway) previewing the singer's side-project half way through the performance
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:05, Reply)

that was fucking shocking
I'd had quite enough of Linkin Park after half an hour, but for him to kick the band off, and bring his other one on was outrageous. Particularly as they were headlining!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:07, Reply)

I think
a lot of people just wandered off. The side-project was terrible as well, just rehashed Linkin Park.
Which bands did you enjoy then?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:10, Reply)

Alice in Chains were the highlight
fucking awesome.

Metallica were obviously good, although not as good as when I saw them in March. It was almost like they were demanding more cheering and applause when it wasn't quite due. Still kicked ass.

Airbourne, Skindred both great.

Coheed and Cambria were great, mainly because they played a full version of Iron Maiden's The Trooper, and did it very well.

Lauren Harris was good. Sexy, and her band rocked as well. Plus she's the daughter of the bassist from Maiden.

how about you?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:14, Reply)

Metallica
really rocked I thought, got a few old favourites in, and a great atmosphere.

Skindred I thought were superb- kudos to anyone who can get a crowd moving that early in the day.

Heaven and Hell gave me a giggle, didn't see much on the smaller stages though, since I get fatigued very fast and thus prefer to conserve energy.

Our camp-space was awesome, we couldn't be bothered to walk up for Alien Ant Farm or for Airborne, but the wind direction was just right and we heard the whole thing.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:20, Reply)

Skindred are always good for that
Heaven and Hell were great, I listened to them from the camping space too. Wind was pretty good for where we were too.

I'd forgotten Alien Antfarm. they were worth watching for Smooth Criminal, and for the weird bass player alone.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:24, Reply)

not
a big fan of Glastonbury anyway.

Sonisphere looks as though it could be good though
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:21, Reply)

I went this year
it was awesome. fucking expensive though, so it was fortunate that I won tickets
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:22, Reply)

Metal smug overload!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:22, Reply)

I was there
as well :)

Skindred were amazing

And of course NIN and Metallica were great
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:24, Reply)

NIN were hugely disappointing. In their choice of songs anyway
Skindred are always good. Particularly when you know some of them ;-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:27, Reply)

NIN
songs were not the ones I'd personally have picked. But when they did Hurt, (and I'm not a big NIN fan) the hairs on the back of my neck rose
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:28, Reply)

they were all a bit dirgy
which lessened the impact of Hurt to me. Johnny Cash made that his own anyway, which again has somewhat spoiled the original
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:29, Reply)

Fair enough
you going this year?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:55, Reply)

depends who is playing I guess
and how flush with cash I am feeling. or if I win tickets again :-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:56, Reply)

where'd
you win them?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:03, Reply)

through seetickets or something

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:06, Reply)

Climie Fisher
should reunite.
Failing that, Extreme.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:28, Reply)

LIVING IN A BOX TO HEADLINE SATURDAY NIGHT

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:29, Reply)

And Wang Chung!!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:31, Reply)

CHINA CRISIS!!!!!111!!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:35, Reply)

One of them is related to me by marriage

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:35, Reply)

is this where I start wittering on about the
golden era of festivals?

No?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:28, Reply)

No
For now you just nay-say everything.
Then when someone makes a comment indicating they can take no more, you can say "I actually like lots of festivals. I saw a festival in Portsmouth in 1982 featuring bands that had not yet formed. We were all high on Jif at the time."
You dig?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:31, Reply)

Do me a favour, can you?
If I give you my login details can you post as me from now on? It'd save me a lot of bother.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:36, Reply)

Sure thing daddio
I'll also gaz everyone saying "I'm not really a big old narky get. I actually want hugs. If I gaz you a picture of my aura, will you meet me at Crewe Station and hug me?"
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:38, Reply)

Perfect.
You couldn'tr just replace 'aura' with 'wizened old cock' though, could you?

Thanks luv.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:41, Reply)

Done

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:43, Reply)

Best bands I've ever seen at festivals:
Gaye Bykers on Acid
Loop
Misty in Roots
Hawkwind
Ozric Tentacles
Culture Shock
The Ullulators
The Oroonies

*eyes mist over*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:40, Reply)

would love to see Ozrics
Seth Lakeman was awesome when I saw him at a festival

and Easy Star All Stars
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:42, Reply)

Last time I saw Gong
the flautist from Ozrics was stood next to me. He fucking stank.

I first saw Ozrics in '89, at this:

www.ukrockfestivals.com/treworgey-tree-fayre-1989.html

Have a look at the pictures (esp the photo gallery link at the bottom)- THAT'S what a proper festival was like.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:50, Reply)

Best Festival Bands
Janes Addiction.
Cypress Hill.
The Orb.
Martin Stephenson and the Daintees.
Pulp.
The Hives.
Dinosaur Jr.

(also Half Man Half Biscuit - in a small tent sponsored by Nesquick.)
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:51, Reply)

And Spiritualized....
....fucking brilliant.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:52, Reply)

Seth Lakeman!
Yes! Which festival?
(Concrete Cow, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 14:41, Reply)

GBOA
Did you ever see Lesbian Dopeheads on Mopeds?
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:54, Reply)

yes, at the Robert Calvert fundraiser alldayer
Brixton Academy. Alongside the Pink Fairies (yay!), Hawkwind (yay!) and....er....Dr and the Medics....
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:55, Reply)

Brill.
Wow Pink Fairies - yay indeed.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:58, Reply)

Possibly my favourite band ever.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:15, Reply)

I found the perfect music video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m95-4RFYdlg
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:41, Reply)

Oh sweet lord...

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:44, Reply)

Nah, that was George Harrison

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:51, Reply)

Ta da ching!!!!

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:51, Reply)

i'll see you that and raise you this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPav44v545Y
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:51, Reply)

Erm...
...I have a soft spot for 'Rise to the Occasion'

*shames*
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:53, Reply)

original or hip-hop mix?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:54, Reply)

Original.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:58, Reply)

Nice
EDIT
Heard the Ballad of Climie Fisher?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:59, Reply)

Yes...
In fact it was me who interviewed them for “Mixed Aggregate” magazine.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:02, Reply)

he hates shale...

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:02, Reply)

And Fisher hates gravel...
Seriously - don't get me started or I will get nothing done today.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:04, Reply)

I know. It's terrible
My nephew has been memorizing HMHB lyrics since birth and we have him like a performing seal.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:07, Reply)

My son (5) often sings...
"Oh darling sugar honey
when it was nice and sunny
and when I had some money
we would go see Echo and the Bunny...


...men."
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:12, Reply)

:)

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:14, Reply)

*throws dung*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:56, Reply)

*ducks*
*flicks 'v's*
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 12:59, Reply)

*slips in dung*
*cries*


*gazzes mods*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:00, Reply)

*films it all on my phone*

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:02, Reply)

.
*informs David Cameron*
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:04, Reply)

*calls Tiger Woods lawyer*

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:05, Reply)

I only want a hug...

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:06, Reply)

*hugs a hoodie*
there you go
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:11, Reply)

*throws dung*

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:11, Reply)

....and thus the whole, shitty circle is complete....

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 4 Dec 2009, 13:14, Reply)