denizens of /OT
give your opinion on this cooker. or not.

www.hotpoint.co.uk/hotpoint/productsheet.do?productId=40078UK
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 20:56, 66 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

does it make food hot?

( willenium Fist bump for verification, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 20:59, Reply)

yes

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:00, Reply)

then it is fine

( willenium Fist bump for verification, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:06, Reply)

It looks like an oven.

( thealternativefact, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:00, Reply)

ah, but does it look like a shit oven?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:01, Reply)

Erm,
no.
( thealternativefact, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:02, Reply)

I'm pretty sure you can cook stuff in that one, so it'll be a good 'un.
I'll be honest, unless it's one of those things that is always on with the hotplates on top that you close down, or a range-finder, then they all look and act the same, as far as I'm concerned.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:02, Reply)

yeah, to me too
however, on viewing a load in comet, I have come to the conclusion that most of them look really shit and cheap, and that in my price range, hotpoint make the only nice looking ones
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:07, Reply)

You mean a 'range', dear boy
Isn't a 'range-finder' something to do with artillery?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 8:32, Reply)

Looks good,
but just beware, if you have cats, they WILL walk across the hob while it's on. They won't do it a second time, though.
( Batshitmentalist is sane for once, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:06, Reply)

I don't have cats
and if I did my response would be the same "that'll teach them"
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:06, Reply)

looks shiny but the site looks dodgy

( Lisette von Falcon, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:07, Reply)

heh
it's not a great site. it is the manufacturer's site though, and I suspect they have put more effort into their appliances than their website.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:08, Reply)

you're gonna get screwed with that kind of attitude

( Lisette von Falcon, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:12, Reply)

you'd think that
they are well established and have a decent reputation, not to mention reviews of that particular model being pretty good
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:15, Reply)

I'm just going to disagree with everything you're saying because it makes me feel good
so

you're wrong
( Lisette von Falcon, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:19, Reply)

fair enough
you're right to do so
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:24, Reply)

disagreeing with you
right here
( Lisette von Falcon, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:32, Reply)

Personally, I'd go for one with bigger knobs.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:11, Reply)

that judgement didn't affect your choice of bloke did it?
hey?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:12, Reply)

He's got a huge nob
on his head.
( thealternativefact, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:13, Reply)

and that's why I'd be looking for it in a cooker

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:14, Reply)

fair enough
surely you'd be better off with a washer/dryer with a big knob on it?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:16, Reply)

I'll take anything that I can turn on
but cookers are hot, y'know?
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:20, Reply)

it's hotpoint therefore it's a bit shit really.
neff is where it's at.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:22, Reply)

neff don't do freestanding stuff
and I don't want built in because I'm ripping my kitchen apart in a couple of years anyway

and I don't have room for two built-in ovens, and I need two ovens
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:24, Reply)

yeah they do...
let me hunt that link...
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:26, Reply)

not according to their own website
but I'm willing to be proved wrong

they do some freestanding ranges, but I can't fit anything wider than 60cm in without seriously compromising my design.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:27, Reply)

camping stove from millets?

( willenium Fist bump for verification, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:30, Reply)

already have one of those
it's shit
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:31, Reply)

here you go.
900 wide but you can take an axe to the unit.
alternatively why not save real money and buy a built-in oven and a cheep 600 base unit?
did that last year (no, 2008 silly) on a job and the client was delighted.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:32, Reply)

cheers for the help (or attempt anyway)
think I'll stick with the plan though
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:33, Reply)

i got us a 3 series twin oven for about £530 last year cos it was glass not s/s
i'll try and find the paperwork cos it's a truley amazing oven.
don't forget that you can build-under a build-in oven.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:34, Reply)

wtf
do you need two ovens for?





/jealous he can barely fit one into his kitchen
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:42, Reply)

well i used 2 ovens a number of times over the festering season...
i roasted a goose, a duck and a turkey all at the same time!
yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa!
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:44, Reply)

for cooking different things at different temperatures at the same time
for warming plates, or keeping things warm, for grilling and oven cooking at the same time...

also, I could fit something much bigger in there if I chose. the large upright piano that is in there doesn't necessarily need to be.

I have a design in mind though, and a big cooker would bugger it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:29, Reply)

Looks alright I guess. I prefer gas, but I'm pretty sure you said you've got electric installed already
Oh and unless you've already got ceramic oven pots and pans, you might have to switch over to ones that cost a lot more
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 21:48, Reply)

You need one with a gas hob and electric oven.
I have spoken.
( girlinthehole, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:05, Reply)

and ideally a seperated wee gas oven...
just for baking bread ;-)
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:14, Reply)

Depends
It's a problem if you've only got electricity.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:14, Reply)

I do have gas, but getting a gas hob at this stage would involve ripping out my kitchen
and seeing as I can't afford to put a new one in at the moment that seems like a silly thing to do.

I'm content not to be buying my dream cooker at the age of 28.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:28, Reply)

For this comment
I shall always remember you as a speaker of truth. And probably not a bad cook. :)
( Jimbuktu See? Right here, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:31, Reply)

she does speak truth here
but I'm having to compromise. I can live with a new electric one because it will be a million times better than the old one that I broke yesterday.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:32, Reply)

I like the look of it
and Hotpoint are a good enough make.
Yes you can spend stacks of money and get a Neff but Hotpoint are good for the price range.
Rent a house and the oven will be a Hotpoint - good solid machines that don't go wrong.

I have a Cannon because my mother has had one for years and it's not gone wrong.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:17, Reply)

thanks for a concise and helpful opinion
:-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:27, Reply)

I bought a Hotpoint Washer /Dryer and it broke within 3 months
The 'helpdesk' told me it was a common issue with hotpoints and they have a reputation for it. The question should really be whether this is the same with their ovens.

It was to do with the programmes and wash cycles, and a short circuit on the control circuit, so maybe you will be ok??
( Jimbuktu See? Right here, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:30, Reply)

worth knowing
my hotpoint dishwasher works perfectly well, and reviews for the ovens seem fine, as far as reliability goes
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:31, Reply)

Well,
If you do buy one, at least you will have a guarantee on it for a year minimum, and then you can save for a gas hob one in a year or two in case it all goes tits up!

Edit: Don't forget about your friend the catering auctions if you want something a bit more pro for a bit less dough. Google for one near you. Oh, do I get points for catchphrases? :P
( Jimbuktu See? Right here, Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:34, Reply)

Sounbd advice from a kitchen installer
and from my own experience is that the only affordable kitchen appliances worth buying are Whirlpool. My decade plus of trouble free laundering, cooking and dishwashing testify to this.
(Cancer Joy was short lived, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:24, Reply)

Nah, I see your Whirlpool and raise you a Bosch.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:28, Reply)

Perhaps,
but I should have added 'affordable' to my recommendation. The Bosch stuff can be pretty pricey.
(Cancer Joy was short lived, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:30, Reply)

trouble with whirlpool
same as with Neff is that they only do big free-standing stuff, other than that it's all built-in, which I don't want.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Buy things like that from John Lewis if you can
all products from John Lewis come with a two year guarantee.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:41, Reply)

They deliver for free also
www.johnlewis.com/230504872/Product.aspx
www.johnlewis.com/230400606/Product.aspx
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Mon 4 Jan 2010, 22:47, Reply)

I like an electric oven with a gas hob
My brother has halogen rings and they're shite, not sure about ceramic as have no experience. Looks OK though mate.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 8:37, Reply)

Absolutely
Raised that very point a few days ago when Vipros borked his old hob. The only thing I would suggest looking for is that the 'top oven' has the facility for different kinds of heating. The one i have is a regular oven, a grill, and then an oven that can heat from the top or bottom only. Ideal for baking, apparantly. Although I am yet to make good use of it, other than that, it looks fine. Easy to clean the smugness from as you prepare yet another delicious repast.
(Cancer Joy was short lived, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:21, Reply)

That is the main sticking point
but I just really can't get a gas hob at the moment without severe disruption to the kitchen, which I can't afford and can't be bothered with.

I've been operating ok with one of the old style electric hobs for the last 2 years, and anything is an improvement on that.

I am fully aware that gas is better, but I don't have the option
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:38, Reply)

Electric hobs equal fail

gas is the only option. Electric is fine for the oven though
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:15, Reply)

This

www.stovecentre.co.uk/Cookers/Mercury/cooker.jpg

All the way!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:45, Reply)

if I had the money and the space
I'd get this
www.britannialiving.co.uk/range-cookers/sigma/100t.php

as it is, I can't afford more than £500-600, so am making the best of it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:55, Reply)

THAT'S more fucking like it
You should see the kitchens my brother does (he's a project manager). The cheapest is about 80k. One chap in Bayswater paid 100k for a new kitchen for his servants' quarters. The mind truly boggles.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:58, Reply)

I know a guy in London who works for a company doing £100k kitchens
wouldn't it be weird if it was your brother...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 9:59, Reply)

Wouldn't it?
His head office is in Devizes, not a million miles from your neck of the old woods either.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 10:01, Reply)

I think the company the guy I know works for is called
Aubergine or Avocado or something...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 10:32, Reply)

Perfect for hot knives!

(Cancer Joy was short lived, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 10:02, Reply)

we used to use these:

Victorian curling tongs - waaay better than knives. Pair of these and a blowtorch and you are OFF.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 10:05, Reply)