Close call.
I've barely smoked this week, because my throat's so sore. I've had a bag of Thai for a fortnight now and have barely dented it. Being ill saves you money...

My ex agrees with me re London state schools - my offering to start a new life in her home town for the good of our child would be seen for the noble offer it is, I think.

I'm pretty fed up with my miserable existence here anyway, much as I love London I am soooo bored with my job and I am slowly killing myself as a result.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:21, 3 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Sounds like you are ready for a change then
and one of those is as good as a rest, or so I hear.

Test the waters and see what happens.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:22, Reply)

if you also get to see more of your daughter as a result of moving then it has to be worth a try
why don't you start looking for jobs around there first to ascertain how easy/difficult it would be to find work there if you moved?
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:23, Reply)

You could probably commute from Canterbury to london?

(PsychoChomp, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:27, Reply)

That's a thought.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:37, Reply)

Would you get to see her more often?
At the moment you both (I think) live in London and she fucks you around all the time with seeing her. what would change in Canterbury?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:31, Reply)

Doubt it.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:37, Reply)

Then why move there??
If you can commute from Canterbury to London, you can go from London to Canterbury to see your daughter
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:40, Reply)

It'd be fucking expensive
And I wonder if a new life for me might not be a bad idea in itself.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:59, Reply)

Thank goodness you finally admit that smoking dope and doing verious other drugs on such a regular occorance is not only killing yourself....
... but also is the reason you feel your life is so shit.

Please go seek help and think of your loved ones next time you spark up a zute.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:39, Reply)

smoking dope isn't killing him any more than smoking cigarettes would

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:41, Reply)

Yes it is.
They're both killing him, but if you smoke fags, you're damaging your body. If you smoke dope reguarly as a crutch, then you're damaging your body _and_ mind.

Take alchole for example, it does your liver in and all that, but it also does your head in, it alters your thinking process not only when you're on it, but when you're off it. If he was drinking 4-5 pints a day, or whatever the equivlient is in booze, you would be thinking "Fucking hell mate, sort it out.".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:46, Reply)

I can only speak for myself
but my mind is as sharp as it ever was, and I'd be a shitload worse off if I drank a load of booze instead.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:49, Reply)

I can pretty much gaurnty that if it didn't alter your mind in any shape or form, you wouldn't be doing it.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:51, Reply)

altering doesn't necessarily mean damaging.
it does vary wildly between people, and while most of my good friends who smoke are perfectly capable and with it, I have known some people who it has fucked up, but I suspect they were prone to mental illness anyway.

It's not for everyone that's for sure, and it's certainly less harmful than a lot of stuff I see people imbibing.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:55, Reply)

The problem is using it reguarly as a crutch to avoid feeling or doing something, rather than face those things.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:57, Reply)

that is very true
I use it to help me sleep sure, but better than sleeping pills in my view.

Aside from that, other than liking it like a lot of people like a drink I don't have any other reason for using it.

I honestly don't think Monty does either, he just likes it a lot, and has been carrying on that way for some time.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 9:59, Reply)

Out of all the screw ups in my life,
booze has been behind most of them.
Drugs, very few.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:02, Reply)

I figure I smoked heavily everyday at uni
and I got a 2:1 and a Masters in Civil Engineering and left uni with a wonderful girlfriend. I have since got myself a nice large house and held down a good job as a hydraulic modeller.

It can't have done me too much harm.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:04, Reply)

I'm pleased above that you've mentioned that you _do_ know people who have fucked up on that stuff, most people don't admit that on this kind of debate.
And I'm also very pleased that this isn't your case, and that everything is going swimmingly for you.

However, I'm sure you're very aware, at least, I hope, that if you were in a negative situation, the weed can turn from "A little tipple at the end of a hard day" to "It's only a tiny bottle of vodka, it's no big deal", if you know what I mean.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:10, Reply)

yeah, one of the guys was diagnosed with "cannabis-induced psychosis"
basically bipolar disorder I think. Caused him to throw his prized guitar out the window...

A very good friend of mine was also diagnosed as bipolar, but she was pretty much heading that way before she started smoking from what I've been told. Strangely, she found that smoking pot helped manage the side effects of her meds afterwards.

I do know what you mean, and in my case, when I've been in a negative situation then I've stopped smoking during it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:20, Reply)

I'm sure any therapist would agree that material achievement would indicate that all is well.

( thealternativefact, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:20, Reply)

:-P
I'm also really rather happy
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:30, Reply)

*nods knowingly*
I'll be coming through Exeter on the train tomorrow. Please stand on the platform at about 12.30pm so I can pull your beard.
( thealternativefact, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:34, Reply)

I'll do my best to be there

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:35, Reply)

Yup, deffo better than sleeping pills, which in my experiance make you wake up feeling like shit, or don't work at all (or both).
Although there are other tablets than 'sleeping pills' that can knock you out, for example, amyletriptaline. I'm not a doc, so donno, but they work for me. Sure, you could say I'm taking them on the same reasons as you smoking weed, but the pills are given to me by specialists and GPs, rather mates and dodggy types. I know the caliber of person doesn't change the effect of the drug, but it does make me feel better that it's less of a bad-news thing.

Whatever I say won't change the way you or monty thinks, and to be honest, you both know how it effects you more than I do. But the impression that I get from Monty is that he is not content with his life, and much like a alcholic or binge-alcholic, is using a drug to escape the issue. Truth be told, I know fuck all except the few things he posts on here, and in my uninformed opinion (which doesn't always equate to being a 'wrong' opnion), it is, at least, a partial cause of his problems..... even on best-case sinario, it gives his ex extra ammo against him.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:07, Reply)

I've tried some herbal stuff in the past, valerian and things
which worked ok, but the trouble I have is that my mind races, even when I'm not stressed or worried about things, and weed relaxes me just enough to let me get to sleep.

I know what you mean about it feeling like less of a bad news thing coming from a specialist.

I certainly wouldn't say your opinion is wrong, and given that I've had little experience with the sort of people and things you describe you may well be more on the money than I am.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:11, Reply)

I've found very few herbal things that touch the sides as far as "real" drugs go.
Valerian, not a thing.
Guarana, not a thing.
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:20, Reply)

I've had some mixed results from valerian
the liquid extract works best in my experience.

I don't tend to go in for stimulants like guarana
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:22, Reply)

that Rocket Fuel coffee was the shiznit though

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:22, Reply)

Enema?

(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:33, Reply)

No she's just got crabs.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 10:54, Reply)