Vision Express have given me contact lenses that have apparently scarred my eyes
so I want free laser eye surgery from them. This will probably not happen though as it's unlikely I'll complain. I'm rubbish at complaining.

What are the school saying your kid has done? Is this a case of "my little angel wouldn't do that?"
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:35, 5 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Other kids are bullying his son
because his dad is an internet nonce.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:39, Reply)

I thought that was your kid

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:51, Reply)

yeah thanks Bobby.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:00, Reply)

oh come on that so wasn't harsh!
I've been way meaner when I was trying to make you cut down on drugs.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:02, Reply)

I know, and I am grateful to you for it.
I AM trying, you know.

Yes, 'very trying' ahahahahaha.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:04, Reply)

It's only because I care
oh can we have an intervention on Friday? Can we can we can we?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:08, Reply)

Monty please bring some industrial strength downers on friday.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:13, Reply)

I'm on it.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:16, Reply)

No, no, that's your child.

( disasterprone "Pyjamas caused the Holocaust", Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:01, Reply)

Just how many log-ins have you got, Bobby?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:02, Reply)

just the one princess

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:04, Reply)

Aw forever in your heart?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:07, Reply)

Good, you're back.
You were a bit of a cunt earlier. I'm sorry I annoyed you, though.

You fucking nonces are so touchy.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:08, Reply)

I was very out of order and I'm sorry.
I didn't get a chance to even sniff a child's hair today so you can imagine I am a bit tetchy.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:09, Reply)

We shall say no more about it.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:16, Reply)

this was touching.

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:23, Reply)

Get exacting details of the nature of the damage caused
and what, precisely, is wrong with your eyes to make you need them

Not necessarily for suing purposes, just because you can't be too careful with your eyesight. As someone with early-onset macular degeneration, if anyone does anything to in any way inconvenience my eyesight I will absolutely fuck them up
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:39, Reply)

It's hard to prove too.
This happened to me and the opticians said I had got something under the lens and rubbed my eye without realising.
I've been unable to wear contact lenses for any useful length of time for about 20 years now.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:42, Reply)

They said that I might have developed an allergy to them
and that I've possibly had an eye infection before now and not done anything about it, so they're insinuating that it's my fault anyway. They said the more I've been wearing the lenses whilst my eye is damaged the more I've been scarring them, but I wasn't to know that. It first happened a year ago and I rung them about it and they said I'd been keeping them in past their sell-by-date (albeit only a day), so that's my fault too so I don't think I have a leg to stand on. However, I'm really worried that I won't be able to wear lenses again or that my sight is going to get worse. I've got an appointment at the emergency eye hospital tonight, but I'm pretty scared
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:51, Reply)

But you could get a guide dog
how awesome would that be
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:53, Reply)

Least comforting statement ever

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:55, Reply)

Not that awesome, they'll run away and let you get beaten up by a cow like Blunkett.

(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:56, Reply)

*pisses pants*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:01, Reply)

How is Blunkett like a cow?
Oh wait never mind.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:04, Reply)

That's what I said!
but I want a guide steed.

I read an article a bit ago about guide dogs and it said that Labradors were the best breed. Apparently they tried spaniels but 4 people died. I proper laughed at that, so this is my karma.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:58, Reply)

What is your prescription, Kitty?
Do you suffer from astigmatism at all?
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:57, Reply)

My prescription is like -4.6 or something like that?
Does that sound right? Put it this way, if I take my glasses off I can't read this screen at all until I get about 15cm away.

What's astigmatism?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:59, Reply)

It's where your hands and feet start bleeding like Jesus.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:01, Reply)

oh that!
everyone has that though right? Right?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:02, Reply)

Not Muslims, who are all going to hell.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:05, Reply)

ooh controversialols

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:08, Reply)

Different shaped eyeball
i've got it mildly as well as being ridiculously shortsighted.

If you do have it, you have to get special contact lens
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:03, Reply)

I don't think I do then
my lenses are just normal (cursed) Acuvues. Bastard Acuvue, a plague on their house.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:13, Reply)

That's pretty bad. Above average, anyway
Mine is -6.75 but I'm pretty special, I think wellgroomedwookiee has worse eyesight than me but he's one of about 5 people I've ever encountered who can say that. The good news is that if you don't have astigmatism (a condition which basically makes your eyes fucking awkward to accurately prescribe or create lenses for due to shaping and clouding) it's unlikely that any retinal scarring that's arisen from wearing crappy lenses will have overly dramatic effects.

So your eyes might hate you for a little while but lasting damage is unlikely to have occured (I find a summary is usually for the best because I'm boring)
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:05, Reply)

Wow my vision is GODLIKE at a mear -1.25 and -2.00
yes yes I have wonky eyes
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:12, Reply)

my sister has wonky eyes
until recently one was perfect vision and the other was -1 or something so she only used to wear one lens.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:13, Reply)

thanks, that does reassure me a bit
I asked her if the scarring was permanent and she said yes, but that I should speak to the hospital about it and then when they've treated the pain and stuff I should go back to them and they'll refit me with daily disposables so hopefully that means my lens wearing days aren't over, but I might have to wear glasses at the bash which I'm a bit miffed about because I'm well vain.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:12, Reply)

Get the laser surgery done!
Best money I've spent
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:13, Reply)

I do want to
but I'm worried my eyes will melt. Plus it's well expensive.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:23, Reply)

Glasses on a girl are usually hawt,
assuming you don't have coke-bottle mong-lenses.

I am sure you'll prove me wrong though.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:17, Reply)

Thanks.

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:32, Reply)

If you're prepared to splash out a bit
You can get some really nice frames nowadays, Specsavers have a really good range. I used to hate wearing glasses, even though with the macular degeneration wearing lenses 7 days a week isn't clever (restricts oxygen flow to the eyeballs) but since I got my new pairs I really don't mind it so much. Think of them as an accessorising option
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:30, Reply)

I used to hate them
but I received a few 'sexy librarian' related comments a while back and that made me feel a bit better about them but I need some new frames if I'm going to be wearing them more often
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:34, Reply)

Ms Foxtrot's sister recently had to get her first pair
She's your age, or will be tomorrow, and was initially abhorred by the idea, until she saw the range of options presented to her. She was like a kid in a candy store. Apparently it's easier to justify spending money on fashion accessories under medical instruction to do so
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:38, Reply)

This is why I hate people who wear clear framed glasses
IT'S A MEDICAL AFFLICTION! *sobs*
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:43, Reply)

God those people piss me off
Wearing glasses as a fashion statement is one of my greatest pet hates. I think it was Crowsephine who suggested the next logical step for those idiots would be to nick a wheelchair in order to get down the front at gigs
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:50, Reply)

Thanks
I'll try and get the hospital to give me as many details as possible.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:51, Reply)

Show them one of your corsets
as a clear example that you are FUCKING BLIND.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:40, Reply)

Hahahaha

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:47, Reply)

that's kind of harsh

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:51, Reply)

It was meant only in jest.
I didn't mean to 'Bobby out' on you. Please excuse me.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:00, Reply)

it's ok
I was probably just being oversensitive
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:07, Reply)

What do you mean, you're unlikely to complain?!
They're the only eyes you've got, woman, and they've fucked them up! I mean, obviously get proof and a second opinion or whatever, but I would kick off in an epic style about this.
(berk, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:42, Reply)

I reckon they'll tell me it's my fault though
and that I should have gone to a doctor last month when I had that 3 day migraine. It takes a lot for me to seek medical assistance, so they'll probably say that was to my detriment. It's annoying though because I never had any problems before they put me on these Acuvue Hydraclear. I think that's why I've been having so many headaches of late as well. There's a personal injury and a medical negligence department at my firm though so I might hit them up for some advice.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 14:53, Reply)

No, it's not a case of that at all
In brief, he is three years old and at nursery. He is well ahead of the activities done there, and consequently gets bored and doesn't play an active role in them. For example, they play games counting to five. He knows and understands numbers into the thousands. Similarly, they play games to identify squares and other basic shapes. He is way ahead of this.

Last May his head of nursery said they felt he wasn't being challenged and could well be classified as being gifted, and asked if we would allow them to observe him for a week with a view to accelerating his learning. We agreed to this, but what ha actually happened is that on the basis of two 90 minute observations, the local SENCO (not fully qualified to degree level as is now required) suggested he had special needs.

There's a whole load going on around this as a result, but he clearly has no special needs at all. The termly reports back us, the nursery back this, but it seems that as they're independent and were struggling, they're trying to meet various minority criteria for funding etc.

My Mum is a fully qualified regional SENCO, and they've breached a huge number of regulations. They have suggested that we're negligent parents (were there the slightest chance he had a problem, we would be first to get it checked and remedied) and have broken further regulations since. They've even refused to discuss our concerns with us in person. Also, my wife is trying to volunteer as a TA to support her post-grad teaching application. The school has an overlap and since our complaint her records and application, and CRB have been "lost"

Basically, through a lack of competence, and through an inability to communicate, and through breaking regulations there is a possibility that my son will be unfairly and inaccurately stigmatised before he's at school.

There have also been other issues where he's gone to the toilet to get changed after playing in the mud, and while he has no trousers or pants on, the woman helping him has wandered off leaving him naked from the waist down, in front of all the parents then picking up their children.

There are further issues since our complaint where the nursery haven't put his waterproofs on him when they go out to play and the ground is wet, and then leave him in his wet stuff. Same with not putting his wellies on instead of his shoes (we send a change of clothes, and waterproofs every day).

So, no, nothing to do with Tommy, just the idiots responsible for him at school. We're pulling him out and sending him to a different school as a result, but I want this dealt with so it doesn't happen to other parents. We're fortunate as we know the system, and we have an experienced head and SENCO in the family.
( disasterprone "Pyjamas caused the Holocaust", Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:00, Reply)

Bugger
On the upside, I know what to bring up in order to break any uncomfortable silences next Monday
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:08, Reply)

They sound incompetent.
If your kid's contemporaries are still identifying shapes and counting to five at three, the whole lot of them are fucking 'special needs'. My daughter's two and is way beyond that shit already, for Christ's sake.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:11, Reply)

different kids learn at different speeds
my little sister is six and not great with her taking away. Yet she is pretty much one of the cleverest children I've met
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:14, Reply)

Different kids do indeed learn at different speeds
but some are also THICK (not your sister, obv.). This is practically heretical to say in this day and age but fuck it: some people are just fucking dim. Not everyone has ADHD, dyslexia, fucking HSBC or whatever.

Little bastards.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:20, Reply)

Now that is true
and it's not just a case about me being partial- one of my sisters is very nonacademic and the family realise that and let her do her own thing.

The ADHD thing pisses me off. If your child has a genuine problem then mainstream education isn't going to help them. If they don't, then stop shovelling coke and sweets down their neck, set some rules and stop letting them make teachers lives a misery
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:22, Reply)

Quite right
a lot of these syndromes are made up crap to excuse a poor home upbringing and justify naughtiness.

People don't want to take responsibility for their kids' actions.
( disasterprone "Pyjamas caused the Holocaust", Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:26, Reply)

I have HSBC
how dare you be so insensitive
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:38, Reply)

This^
My daughter can write her name and she is 3 and called Elizabeth. I can remember being able to read, write and count long before starting school.

Thicket kids these days, eh?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:15, Reply)

that's my sister's name and she can't spell it

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:43, Reply)

Jebus, that is terrible!
Sue the fuckers
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:12, Reply)

So basicly, your son is eaither very very clever, or is completely and utterly retarded.
Yeh', sounds like me in a lot of respects.

Except, you know, he's 3, and you're trying to label him for life.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:12, Reply)

I got up to the retard vs clever point and couldn't be arsed with the rest, to tell you the truth

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:13, Reply)

I make no claims that he's some sort of genius, and that really isn't the issue
My issue is simply with their trying to label him as something that's inappropriate, in the face of conflicting evidence and then breaching a lot of procedures. Also refusing to discuss things face to face like adults. I'm not willing to have him given an inaccurate label at the age of 3 that'll follow him throughout his school life.

Clearly I'm all for trying to push him, and keep his interest.
( disasterprone "Pyjamas caused the Holocaust", Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:25, Reply)

Kids start school at such different levels, that's why initially they are subjected to base line tests
so you can track added value throughout the year. The problem is if your sprog is advanced beyond the majority of the class the teacher may not be good enough to cater to his needs and be holding him back. eg - not giving him appropriate books or words. The new foundation system should address this issue.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 19 Oct 2010, 15:23, Reply)