i'm on holiday yet somehow
i am spending the next 3 hours drafting advice on a conditional break option and an insolvent tenant. then i am taking my friend's baby to something called "head over heels". where all the mothers in their cheshire tractors will look at me and say things like "i used to be a lawyer/banker/doctor you know" and "but don't you WANT children?" blah blah.

luckily i have the sparkling vodka that my friend bought for my birthday in the freezer, i can come home and mainline that.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:42, 4 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I left some waitrose cider in the freezer yesterday
it became a bit like a slushy, it was quite nice.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:45, Reply)

did it not go a bit watery though, i know frozen diet coke is not great.
or maybe you drank it too quickly for that?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:48, Reply)

Nah it only just froze, didn't have a chance to get too watery
it was still fizzy.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:50, Reply)

so long as the alcohol content was not unduly diluted
i approve
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:53, Reply)

The amount of water in a sealed bottle is pretty constant.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:59, Reply)

unless you freeze it, no?
if you freeze a can of coke and then open it before it explodes, it will be watery. i thought it was something to do with the shape of the molecules/walls of the cells changing to let the water in, which is also why it gets bigger?

this sounded better in my head.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:03, Reply)

This explanation is rather endearing
wrong, but endearing.
(berk, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:06, Reply)

Haha! Now say that again,
but this time pat her on the head as you do so.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:07, Reply)

science sucks!
i know what i meant... i really thought the walls of the cells broke down to let the water in? this then means they don't reform which is why it goes mushy/watery.

what am i thinking of then??
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:15, Reply)

I can't say for sure, as I don't know what's in Coke,
but it wouldn't contain any cells unless there were some plant (or animal) tissue in there. So if you freeze a piece of fruit, for example, then the water inside the cells expands as it freezes, which tends to rupture the cells, and therefore damages the structure supporting the fruit, making the flesh mushy.

In the case of Coke, my best guess would be that when you freeze it, a lot of the flavouring and colourings precipitate out, but don't re-dissolve very easily when you defrost it. (I suspect berk may correct me on this one though.)
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:23, Reply)

so basically my mistake
was mistaking diet coke for fruit?

easily done...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:24, Reply)

Haha! Well, yes I guess we've all made that mistake in the past
Fruit is good for you.
Why would they call it "Diet" if it's not good for you?
It must be fruit!
QED.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:26, Reply)

Coca Cola is made from vegetable extracts
and sugar comes from plants. How could it NOT be good for you?
(berk, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:29, Reply)

Exactly!
By this logic I should be able to get my "5 a day" by eating five packets of different types of sugar.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:31, Reply)

It's certainly my argument
for eating an entire bar of Galaxy hazelnut. Chocolate comes from beans, right?
(berk, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:32, Reply)

As does coffee
And tea is made from leaves. If only I took sugar with my tea, I could be the healthiest person in my office!
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:34, Reply)

i certainly get 5 a day of diet coke
don't always manage it on the fruit/veg side of stuff.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:31, Reply)

Try substituting each Diet Coke
for a Bloody Mary.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:35, Reply)

Well,
Alcohol has a lower freezing point than water, so if you cool down the cider enough that the water forms ice crystals then, although the water content will indeed be the same, the remaining liquid component of the mixture will be slightly more alcoholic. (I believe this is how Brew Dog managed to create a 41% ABV beer)
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:04, Reply)

This makes me weep for Britain's great brewing heritage.

(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:48, Reply)

So I should have just thrown away perfectly good booze?

(PsychoChomp, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:51, Reply)

No, you should have treated it with due respect.

(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:53, Reply)

And given it to a tramp
/Not a cider fan
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:54, Reply)

Better that than to be consumed by the sort of person who would pull handbrake turns in a Bentley.

(Cave Duck, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:56, Reply)

this sounds like something i would do
which is why i am the only child not insured on my dad's. humph. "i got in one little fight* and my dad got scared..."

* wrote his brand new car off at 90mph on the motorway with all of us in it
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:58, Reply)

Sparkling vodka??
Sounds good!
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:46, Reply)

i know!
she was so excited when she found it, all week she had been texting me saying "you won't believe my present, rah rah". she got me the most gorgeous long stemmed shot glasses to go with it. in fact, all my friends/family excelled themselves this year, i am totally and utterly spoilt.

also amberl was asking about it, which made me go online to find the website, it has all sorts of cocktail recipes, so now i am having a sparkling vodka party before celebrating my birthday in london next weekend (it's 40% strength, pure vodka and the size of a bottle of champagne - not the kind of thing you could drink by yourself if you want to live!)
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:53, Reply)

Chelsea Tractors

(Himjim died a little more inside on, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:48, Reply)

yes, when i am in london they are
up here they are ridiculous 2010 reg white 4x4's that have clearly never seen a speck of mud in their lives.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:51, Reply)

Up here?
Where are you?! Also, if you write that you're bored on here, don't ignore my message. The CHEEK.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:02, Reply)

i am in cheshire ACTUALLY
and i was on the phone to a client. i saw the red message thing and it was the only thing in my life keeping me going through the phonecall.

but now you've gone and ruined the surprise, so it can stay there ALL WEEK.

edit - ha, that message isn't from you after all. did you email me instead?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:14, Reply)

You up North again?

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:49, Reply)

oh yes
i have only just recovered from sat night's birthday celebrations out in wilmslow. and yes, before you ask, we ended up in rev's!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:52, Reply)

Woo! Haha
Is Head Over Heels the one in Chorlton? As that's the only one I know of.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:54, Reply)

i'd be surprised
my friend lives in alderley, there's bound to be one somewhere around there! her husband, who used to live in london and be cool, actually used the phrase "in the village" on sat night. i had to discipline him severely.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:56, Reply)

Haha, dear oh dear!

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:04, Reply)

i know, right?
dreadful dreadful behaviour
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:14, Reply)

I've not gone out these past days.
Seems Stockport is full of things that just make me ill as soon as I step foot in it.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:16, Reply)

well yeah
it's STOCKPORT innit!!!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:18, Reply)

Macclesfield is far superior

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:18, Reply)

You have a point.
It's still home.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:19, Reply)

To more than 100 undiagnosed illnesses

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:23, Reply)

Contrary to popular belief
Stockport is not your colon.
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:24, Reply)

Too easy
your my
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:27, Reply)

Too easy
LIKE YOUR MUM

(Well, if you will drag it down to that level)
(LongJohnBaldry, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:29, Reply)

That's pretty low
6 foot deep, even Haha
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Mon 15 Nov 2010, 11:31, Reply)