I have to work out whether or not to kill my brother
The Estate Agents have phoned my old Landlord, and he's basically told them I destroyed the property. Now, I'd warned them in advance about my problems with him, so they're being understanding. However, they've asked me to get a guarantor, just as backup. So, while I've passed the credit check, they still need someone there, just as a signature.

I asked my brother on saturday, explaining I won't need him at all, I simply need him there as a backup, he said he'd have a think, chat to his wife, and let me know. He still hasn't come back to me, despite a reminder yesterday. Unless I can get the completed form, and copies of ID, 3 pay slips and a bank statement back to them tomorrow, they might release the house, and I know this place is in demand.

Now, I know my brother won't be able to get them to me tomorrow, so should I kill him?
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:06, 4 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I can't see how that would get you the property.

( girlinthehole, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:07, Reply)

But it would be enjoyable.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:13, Reply)

Is this the brother you BLATANTLY FABRICATED,
or another one?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:09, Reply)

This is the brother that exists, and is the one holding me in the picture where I look like the Mekon

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:11, Reply)

The poorly-photoshopped one you made up
in order to win the Neil Buchanan debate?

That one?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:24, Reply)

10th July 2009 I had this picture posted
b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post478046

Sorry Monty.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:37, Reply)

Did you actually destroy the property?
Because if you didn't, then I'm fairly sure you can do something about that - maybe ask rswipe?
Asking for a guarantor is pretty normal - I've been asked for a couple of the flats I've had and I've only ever had good references from previous landlords. Can't you ask the estate agent to give you another day? And didn't you say you wanted to stay at home anyway until you got money and shit sorted?
(berk, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:11, Reply)

It's only due to him saying the previous property was damaged
And nope, I left it in fairly good condition. Not magnificent, I was expecting him to take some money off me for repairs, but he's being a right prick with it. (£40 to clean curtains, etc)

Aye, that was the plan, but a talk with my Dad made me clearer on a few things that I was fussing over, I'm able to move out again, just means being a little careful for the next month. Also, this property came up earlier than expected.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:13, Reply)

Well then he shouldn't be giving you such a shit awful reference
have a word with rswipe re: your rights. And I'm sure if you ask the estate agent nicely they'll give you another day. Why can't your dad be guarantor given that you're currently living with him?
(berk, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:17, Reply)

He's retired now, so has no income to show
And my stepmum is now reducing her hours, so she can't really be used either. Plus, she refuses to do it again, after last time they were phoning her colleagues in her office, asking about her personality, etc. Stupidly in depth.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 11:35, Reply)

Hate to say this
but of course it's in-depth. Full credit check, references, the works. After all, they are now the ones responsible for paying the rent, not you. That's the point of a guarantor. It's not just to tell them that you are a pleasant chap.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:08, Reply)

Aye, the only reason she got annoyed is because they were contacting those she listed as reference, and then others she hadn't listed.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:09, Reply)

that is a little odd, I agree.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:14, Reply)

It's not that you won't need him at all, though.
he's legally responsible for the rent, damage to the property, everything. I don't know how close you are, but it's a major responsibility to be a property guarantor. I'm not surprised he's thinking about it. I did it for an old girlfriend and it's not something to do lightly.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:06, Reply)

It's the fact I've passed the credit check that irritates me
This is only required because of the bad reference. He knows this, and knows he can trust me, yet is dragging his feet.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:10, Reply)

yeah ... but it's not though, is it?
Even if they don't need it, as guarantor he's still responsible for the rent. I'm not sure there's such a thing as a "half-guarantor" I'm sure he can trust you, but it's a major responsibility. If you got hit by a car tomorrow he's still probably got to cough up 12 months rent, for instance. He'd be a bit of a arse if he didn't at least discuss it with his wife, and maybe she's not keen?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:14, Reply)

And if that was the case, I'd accept and move on
But it's the fact I've heard nothing from him since Saturday lunchtime, when I told him I needed to know asap.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:16, Reply)

that is quite a long discussion.
maybe he's bottling saying no, in which case I think a light slap from you would probably be justified.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:21, Reply)

Then just ring him
and tell him you need an answer. A bit of light hassling is probably justified, since it seems to be such a big deal.
(berk, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:23, Reply)

I'm going to give him a try at lunch
If he doesn't answer, then I'm going to have to go to my backup plan - One of my other siblings
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 23 Nov 2010, 12:25, Reply)