I seem to like music that lots of folks think is simply piss-awful.
Prog rock (Yes, Rush, Primus, Porcupine Tree) often makes people do a face when I admit to listening to them.
Heavy Metal (Iron Maiden, Thin Lizzy, Megadeth, Diamond Head) often makes people do a face when I admit to listening to them
Hard Rock (Whitesnake, Def Leppard, Skid Row, Winger) often makes people do a face when I admit to listening to them
Electronica (Jean Michel Jarre, Yello, The Buggles) often makes people do a face when I admit to listening to them
Hard and heavy dance music (Pendulum, Prodigy, Faithless) often makes people do a face when I admit to listening to them

and let's not go into what disbelief I encounter when I let it be known that I like t.a.t.u., even the songs of theirs in Russian.

So, I ask of the offended person, what do you like to listen to? And the answer is nearly always the same.

"REM, Oasis and Coldplay".

OK, so there is a mutual dislike thing going on with regards to musical styles and bands, I won't go so far as to say 'they're shit' just because I don't like them. But I'll tell you who IS shit.

Any rapper who has to brag about how many bitches he's been shagging but doesn't even have a style/voice that makes them in any way talented or unique.

So, Sean Paul then.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 18:56, 48 replies)

battle stations by winger for the absolute fucking WIN

( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:00, closed)

Best song in the world
to do ANYTHING to...especially building a robot replica of yourself
(7 hours left to save Earth, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:36, closed)

station

( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:37, closed)

station

(7 hours left to save Earth, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:23, closed)

The annoying thing about t.A.T.u. is that behind all the hype and controversy
They were quite good.
(Vigilante Man weeps because you're stupid., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:09, closed)

I originally only gave them any attention
because of the Trevor Horn connection. I found plenty more to like, plus the fact that Yulia Volkova is also a very talented concert pianist.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:19, closed)

...
Winger! pffft!
( scoshi pretending to diet since, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:13, closed)

Stuart on Beavis and Butt-head had a Winger T-shirt
so even people who've never heard them associate the name with Shitness.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:22, closed)

It's a sham though
What they do, they do really well. It's just that when they hit their stride was exactly around the time the world decided it was done with that style and go into Nirvana
(7 hours left to save Earth, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:38, closed)

I distinctly remember that happening
all of a sudden all bands started sounding a certain Seattle way.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:44, closed)

*does a face*
although I also like Judas Priest, Eisbrecher and Jean Michel Jarre.

the simple mention that I happen to like German techno-industrial metal usually gets a sour face reaction...

they don't know what they're missing...
( scoshi pretending to diet since, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:16, closed)

*does a face*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:21, closed)

I'm similar
...different music though (although you have mentioned some that I would gladly listen to, including tatu's lesser known stuff).

Joe Satriani and Steve Vai for instance. I usually get a "Who?" when I answer with that.

Then of course, there's Duran Duran - at school I couldn't be allowed to openly like their music as I would have been called 'queer', but now I don't give a shite, I can listen to it freely and actually realise their talent.

...and I've been known to listen to Lady Gaga.
(dchurch bah, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:29, closed)

I have a couple of Vai albums
I lost interest after he became involved with Whitesnake though...
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:41, closed)

there's no denying that Vai and Satch are great guitarists
but I don't like to listen to them any more, gets a bit boring.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 3 Jan 2011, 13:01, closed)

Some 'songs' do, some don't. Some I can listen to over and over, others, the FF button comes into effect pretty quickly.
Passion and Warfare and The Extremist are still bloody excellent IMHO, but I have spates of listening to them.
(dchurch bah, Wed 5 Jan 2011, 22:47, closed)

megadeth
Are wicked
(7 hours left to save Earth, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:35, closed)

You have shit taste in music.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:37, closed)

You're doing it wrong.
make a face.
EDIT well of course you're going to say that, Mister DJ who likes it to be known that he owns his own decks.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:41, closed)

No thanks.
I'll just continue smirking at your cringingly shit taste in music. Much more fun that way.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 19:52, closed)

I don't think anyone's taste in music is immune to criticism from some other person somewhere
Go on, over to you for your immaculate choices of music. Oh wait, maybe I offended you with the Pendulum choice. Sorry, they're still not as bad as Sean Paul.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:00, closed)

I have impeccable taste in music.
And I found your examples of 'electronica' fucking funny.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:09, closed)

Well when you're my age
you'll probably have gone through several changes in taste and if your bands are lucky enough to still be going all that time, so will their styles. My version of 'electronica' means bands who were the groundbreakers, don't get too precious with what constitutes a genre.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:15, closed)

'Groundbreakers'?
Like Carl Craig, The Black Dog, Cybotron and Arthur Baker? Fuck's sake dude, Jarre is pissflaps, Buggles were a joke and Yello were a playboy's experiment.

Like I said, Shit taste in music.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:23, closed)

Yeah, but I like it.
I've not said it was somehow superior. Except to Sean Paul.

'nuff said.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:26, closed)

You're actually coming across as a bit of a cunt.

(Vigilante Man weeps because you're stupid., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:23, closed)

yes. yes he is.
but then I have paraded a collection of bands that I already specified were of dubious popularity with, among other people, techno-headed DJ type people. Although having said 'people often find my taste in music shit' I wonder how insightful it is of someone to then come along and say 'your taste in music is shit'. I know!
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 21:12, closed)

Really?
Jean Michel Jarre? Yello? Not your idea of electronica? What is? Some student shite the sounds like New Order on the wrong speed? After Kraftwerk, Jarre and Yello (and Tangerine Dream) all but invented electronic music. Even if most of doesn't really qualify as "actual music."

Weirdly, I like like 3 four band in each catergory. And then a pull a face.

Winger? Seriously?
(xaer0mancer, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 21:11, closed)

Junkyard dog
very very sawtoothy grungy chumpy.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 21:13, closed)

What does my ownership of technics have to do with it?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 22:48, closed)

that if you've invested that amount in equipment for DJing and therefore the music (techno and stuff?)
then you're never going to have any truck with the like of my musical tastes. Likewise, I'd be not particularly useful in our studio if I liked happy hardcore when all our clientele are rock bands.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Thu 30 Dec 2010, 23:04, closed)

I play breakbeat and hip hop, not 'techno and stuff'. Nice ignorance there, well done.
I also love metal: Black Sabbath, Sunn O))), Pantera and Kyuss. Post Punk as well- The Slits, New Order, Joy Division and Buzzcocks.

I fucking hate happy hardcore because it is shit, as is Steve Vai, Whitesnake and Faithless.

Don't even mention Pendulum- music for paedophiles at best, music for emo cunts at worst.

You really have no fucking idea about my taste in music, and assume two very worrying things- 1, that people can only like either 'techno and stuff' or 'real music' and 2, that the umbrella term 'techno and stuff' includes Pendulum and paedo music like that as well as sterling stuff like Shackleton and Buraka Som Sistema.

You sir, are an ignorant fuckwit. You do realise that Technics are, like guitars, musical instruments, so playing 'techno and stuff' on them is as bad/ respectable as playing 'metal and stuff' on guitars?

What a grade A musical shitwit.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 0:39, closed)

well at least you've opened up now
I can only go on what info you put out there/on here. Which until now was 'I've got technics decks and a pioneer mixer' and 'techno'. May I remind you, you came in and told me I've got a shit taste in music in a thread where I'd titled it 'most people don't like my music'.

I'm sure you can use your decks to make something more technically intricate than a lot of real musicians can but aren't you only manipulating other people's creative output and putting your stamp on it? Using samples and beats and loops and Ableton coupled with a performance pad makes that person more of an orchestral composer and conductor than a musician. A score arranger if you will. Real musicians create content.

My choices in music reflect how I've lived and what music I've learned and played. I'm not calling your taste in music shit, I'm just pointing out that you don't have any legitimate reason to criticise mine even after I've already said it was considered dubious, unless you're the King Of Music and the majority of the world bows to your whims.

There, you've belittled me and I've given back. We're even. Although I dislike your prodigious use of the EDIT button to make your posts seem better after you've first composed them.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Fri 31 Dec 2010, 1:18, closed)

And I applaud your use of the edit button.
I used it to change an autocorrect of 'bunches' to 'buggles', seeing as my mobile didn't recognise 'buggles' as a word.

And I don't use Ableton (though it is a wonderful piece of software, as I'm sure you know) and I have never claimed to play techno. I love listening to techno, but I don't play it out.

'Real musicians create content'? What, so a band as pisspoor as, say, Oasis or even (Christ save us) Megadeth are 'better' musicians than, say, DJ Shadow or Squarepusher? Have you heard Endtroducing or Selection Sixteen?

Noone bows to my whims, but if you're going to insinuate dubious claims to being aware of a wide range of music you'd be wise to look a bit further afield than the shit you mention. And nobody in hip hop takes Sean Paul seriously, any more than people in Drum n Bass take Pendulum seriously or people in punk take Green Day seriously. Get a pair of functioning ears.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 1:37, closed)

Alright, we're trading absolutes here
If nothing else I like you because you don't like Oasis. And I mention Sean Paul because, as I originally posted, he is an example of one amongst many rappers he is the worst for having absolutely no redeeming content whatsoever.

My ears are fine - this is why we (Cat's Mother and I plus Mikeh) run a recording studio. Our ears are just tuned to the rock music spectrum and occasionally beats that stray off the 4/4 metronome, which suits our clientele. Chill off and time to relax the online snappiness and return to where you reside in your angry internet lair. Tomorrow will bring another QOTW answer that you get enraged at.
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Fri 31 Dec 2010, 2:17, closed)

Oasis- pish pish utter pish
Agreed. I don't mean to sound so cunitsh though- I do get riled when I encounter the old 'you can only like either electronic or acoustic music' thing, which I experience a lot. As I've said, I love all sorts of stuff, from Shellac, Big Black, Sunn O))), Kyuss through to Boards of Canada, Autechre and Goldie.

Also, yes, Sean Paul is gash, but Public Enemy (sampled Slayer), Mos Def (uses a live funk metal band) and Squarepusher (possibly the finest living bass player) are wonderful musicians who may not fit the 'real music/ metal' template, but 'rockers' would love. DJing is another performance medium- I don't read Ballard in the same way I read Ellis, ditto listening to electronic Vs acoustic. Leonard Cohen on the dancefloor would be shit, just as Drums of Death in a gin sodden 4 am introspection ting wouldn't work.

Don't assume that because I appreciate Richard D James I can't/ won't/ don't appreciate Steve Albini.

Weirdly, that sort of music snobbery really really riles the fuck out of me. Why is 'performed' music any more valid than electronic music? That is akin to thinking that writing produced via a typewriter is more 'real' than writing produced from a laptop.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 2:31, closed)

Yeh, but Technics an instrument?
You're having a larf innit.

It's a record player. When it's something you can get graded for playing, I might believe you.

'What instrument do you play?'
'Dansette'

Hmm...
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 14:43, closed)

Turntables are an instrument.
Check out the Scratch Perverts:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqvWrK_jf3w

Or Kentaro:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLQG0TAp_s&feature=related

Or Kid Koala playing Moon River:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouFjqeo0f34&feature=related

or drunk trumpet: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5oK4PCCoM
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 16:33, closed)

Nope
I've had a look, does nowt for me, looks like a bunch of blokes fucking about with other peoples music.

If it's an instrument, it's for playing records on.

I once saw some Formula One techie playing about with a car and he got the engine notes to play 'God Save The Queen'. It doesn't make it a musical instrument, it's still a car.

I refer you to my previous reply.
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:00, closed)

So you missed the bit where the Perverts were scratching without any records?
Using the platter, stylus and mixer to make music?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:53, closed)

Music?
I thought that music had a melody, you know, like a tune, a rhythm and a beat. I've played guitar for about 20 years and that's what I've been led to believe. I've just watched the Perverts vid all the way through and that's 6 minutes of my life wasted.
The bit you refer to was random clicks and buzzes, not music. If you think that's music, you should watch a video of the Clangers. You'll have an orgasm.
( His Popiness the Hole Invaded Poland on, Sat 1 Jan 2011, 16:27, closed)

i would just like you to know
i'm laughing like a twat at this
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 6 Jan 2011, 0:55, closed)

I find...
that if I mention liking anything that's not RnB, X-factor or Hollyoaks Indie to most people I get blank looks or a suspicion that I eat babies.
(Big D, Thu 30 Dec 2010, 22:14, closed)

I like Sean Paul
go on, do a face.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 8:46, closed)

"does a face"
And thus ladies and gentlemen, another meme is born..

*does a meme*
(danniekavanagh did nothing constructive on, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 14:43, closed)

Hey, at least Sean Paul isn't
Ja Rule, also known to his parents as Jeffrey Atkins.I would have nominated Ja Rule first but I couldn't remember his 'name'
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana., Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:10, closed)

A bit late but...
Since Megadeth have had at least one virtuoso in their ranks, I would argue yes. They are better musicians. Mr Mustaine himself is no slouch either.

And I have nothing against electronica. I am very fond of DJ Shadow, Quantic, Bonobo etc. However I wouldn't really regard mixing equipment as musical intruments, but I think it's fantastic that those guys can take a small part of a song that may not even seem very significant and turn it in to something completely different and beautiful.
This is why I hate most commercial rap. They just seem to talk over other people's music and add nothing to it. It's a miracle they make any money at all.
(Megamoss, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 19:23, closed)

this is exactly what I mean.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 31 Dec 2010, 20:35, closed)