The most important thing to do when you are bieng attacked and/or raped, is to survive.
The second is to call the police and go to the hopsital to have an STI check along with a rape kit. I know it's scary, but if you don't prosercute and take it further, then you're enabiling the rapist to attack other people. Also, support can be provided for you from the goverment. They have a whole range of proffesionals who can help you deal with the whole fall-out, both phsyical and emotional.

Please, if ever you are in this situation, keep this in mind.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:12, archived)

you been listening to the archers lately?

( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:12, archived)

So, I was just looking at this- it turns out, like four of my friends fit the profile. That;'s not great.
www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/profile.html
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:26, archived)

there more than a few on /talk too

( RedStar returneth, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

JMG's a rapist!
/ninja
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

JMG's a rapist.
*click*
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

JMG's a rapist.
*click*
( RedStar returneth, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:30, archived)

What's that? JMG's a rapist?
*click*
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:31, archived)

I believe JMG is a rapist
yes
( RedStar returneth, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:33, archived)

JMG must be incarcerated. He's a rapist.

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:33, archived)

i have a jock mentality
hoots mon, get right intae thae italians, no ... hence guilty
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

Will do.
Cheers 90Nz0.
(Psycho Eyes, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:13, archived)

NO. DON'T LISTEN TO HIM.
THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS AFTER I RAPE YOU YOU GET RAPED IS TO NOT TELL ANYBODY.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:14, archived)

It'll be your little secret!

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:15, archived)

I *actually* think I'm in love with you.
Can we have some children? We'll call them all Elvis.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:17, archived)

RAPE-BABIES!

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:17, archived)

SHHHHH
THEY'LL NOTICE.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:16, archived)

you remind me very much
of my dad.
( KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:17, archived)

Did you really just mean what you implied?

( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:18, archived)

Gosh!
Your hand-holding-up-polaroid CSS trick is awesome.
( Newington, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:23, archived)

ta
took me awhile.
that's my actual hand too.
though unfortunately not taken with a Polaroid camera and scanned in.
( KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:30, archived)

You shall not be raping me
for you are all up there in the North and you don't even know where I live. Ha!
(Psycho Eyes, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:17, archived)

*watches through window*
Yeah, you're right.

I was only joking, i wouldn't ever rape.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:20, archived)

I know you were dear
You may be a perv but I don't think you're that bad ;)
(Psycho Eyes, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:21, archived)

I wanted to point out, as it was a little vulgar, even for me.

( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:23, archived)

window? pffft
keyhole surely
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:29, archived)

The most important thing to do while being raped
is pretend you're enjoying it.

It puts them right off.
( The Gentleman Bastard waxing lyrical. ©, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:20, archived)

just remember those words
next time I'm raping you and you'll be fine
(Dangermouse., Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:13, archived)

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:13, archived)

This is true.
/works with the police and forensic teams dealing with rape victims.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:13, archived)

What?
Just... what?

And just when was the last time you were raped Gonz?
( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:14, archived)

last night, by my mum.

( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:15, archived)

In the drawing room with the candlestick?

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:16, archived)

He used the Mustard :(

( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:34, archived)

MUSTARD USING SLUT!

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:35, archived)

I have never been raped, thank god.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:16, archived)

You're getting a bit scary recently.
Have you accepted Jesus as your personal saviour?
( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:17, archived)

Alas, I have not, but I've decided to dispence good advice with the best intentions, where and when ever possible.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:19, archived)

That was entirely random and quite condescending though.

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:20, archived)

Not at all, not in the slightest, I would never make fun of such a situation.
I figure that there are hundreds of people on here at the moment, and someone may know someone who is in that situation, or even been in that situation themselfs, and they might not know what to do or be to scared to come out.

Quite frankly, I was hoping someone would thank me for this.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:26, archived)

Well, I'm glad you brought up the wonderful subject of rape
And talked down to everyone who has ever been through it.

Cheers!
( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:27, archived)

This is terrible, I was not talking down to anyone.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:33, archived)

Everyone knows you're supposed to go to the police.
Whether or not you want to go is an entirely different matter, because chances are you'll get fucked up more in court than you did during the crime, if you'll pardon my crudeness.
( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:36, archived)

And hence a proper discusion is about to happen, I hope, where people can express their opinon and prehaps, and unfortunately, experiance.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:40, archived)

Piss the fuck off, I'm not sharing any experience with the internet.

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:44, archived)

I'm not talking about the actual event, or any details, but the aftermath.
Prehaps I know someone in this situation, and infact, do know someone who's been in this situation.

But don't worry about it, we'll limit the topic to cats and lunchtime threads in the future.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:50, archived)

Oh piss off you ignorant, patronising wanker.

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:56, archived)

However well-intentioned you were,
of the 11,766 allegations of rape made in 2002 there were just 655 convictions. 11,111 rape victims went through character assassinations and humiliation and were made out to be liars, sluts or idiots - all, no doubt at a huge personal cost to their well-being. For nothing.

How do you think they'd feel about your advice?
( L-Space - scientia sapientes vocat., Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:58, archived)

^This, this, this, this

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 14:04, archived)

Although that is completely horrifying....
Would you surgest that the person lets them get away with it? or prehaps some sort of vigalantisim?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 14:16, archived)

If those eleven thousand victims
had done nothing - not gone to the police, not endured physical examinations, not waited months for the case to come up, not been accused of lying, or of being a slut or completely to blame, then NOT ONE SINGLE EXTRA PERSON would have "got away with it".
It's a tragically poor conviction rate, and it means that 95% of the time it literally is not worth even reporting to the police. And that's just using the reported rape figure. The conviction rate would almost certainly be even lower if every rape was reported.

The assumption that reporting a rape stops someone "getting away with it" is almost always wrong. And no, I don't agree with vigilantism.
( L-Space - scientia sapientes vocat., Thu 15 Nov 2007, 14:31, archived)

Perhaps it wasn't meant to be taken that way.
Unfortunately, giving people ostensibly 'sensible advice' which is rather simplistic and takes no account of what it's really like to be raped is likely to backfire if any of those people have first-hand experience. Rape is hard enough to get over without being made to feel guilty about how you dealt with the aftermath.
( L-Space - scientia sapientes vocat., Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:41, archived)

All of that

(Psycho Eyes, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:48, archived)

You can't actually do the second thing WHILE you're being attacked and/or raped.
Although you'd get a sure-fire conviction if you did.
( Newington, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:14, archived)

Convicted of rape? that's debatable.
www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/opinion/article3157947.ece

It's like russian roulette, only you'll be raping people.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:16, archived)

Why rapes are seldom reported - Reason #126.

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:19, archived)

three women i know were raped when they were in their late teens
and i'm beginning to think the attitudes of another couple may have been formed by "stuff they never talk about" (although that's a guess) - basically, it's scarily common
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:20, archived)

It doesn't make for great dinner-party conversation though.

( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:23, archived)

it does make for quite a bombshell over first date dinner however

( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:25, archived)

Haaaa, I've done that.
It was indeed quite the bombshell.
( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:26, archived)

yeah
still had pudding tho'
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:30, archived)

Well, it was the second time I met him, first proper date.
Still with him though, so I must not be too much of a pathetic individual.
( The Baroness The Harlot Pimpernel, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:33, archived)

Sadly true

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:23, archived)

I was merely sort of lightly picking on 90nz0's poor phraseology.
I should probably have just ignored the thread.
( Newington, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:21, archived)

That's sad.

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:22, archived)

Jesus, I thought you were night-shift.
Well, in work we deal with sending down rapists- we collect and organise the forensic evidence and blah blah blah, I reckon that for every 10 requests we get to go to court, six are for rapes, three are for drink-drives and the others vary.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:23, archived)

I'm basically glued to the computer during the week, thanks.
My cousin was raped and they never convicted the guy because she had been drinking.
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:26, archived)

Oof.

( Newington, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:27, archived)

/breaks NDA.
We had one the other day, where samples were reuqested from the victims friend, as she'd had sex with the rapist directly AFTER the rape- so, she'd contain both the suspect and victims DNA if he'd raped her. He did.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

=(
That's horrible.
( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:29, archived)

Yup. We should be dealing with the court-case soon too, he'll probably be sent down.
Thing is though, cases can take over 8 months to build before they get passed to the CPS.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:34, archived)

I didn't realize it took that long.

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:37, archived)

I find offering to buy them a nice icecream works well

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:24, archived)

Is that before or after the rape?

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:26, archived)

whenever we next pass a ben and jerry counter

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

After, as it soothes the burns.

( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:28, archived)

ACID PENIS, TONY. Acid penis.

( Lisette von Falcon, Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:30, archived)

during would be the most polite option

(Dangermouse., Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:29, archived)