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There were elements of the film that were great and just as iconic as parts of the original 3 films.
I thought the opening act was brilliant, with the visit to area 51 and the bomb-test (I even liked the fridge escape, as it was very pulp-adventure).
The character surplus killed it, though, along with the ham-fisted way they delt with the death of Marcus and Jones' father and the endless nods to events in previous films.
(I helped save b3ta! JollyJack - a stench from the past, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:11, archived)
# Wasn't Bambi a deer in the original?
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:13, archived)
# Yes, character surplus killed it.
Not the ending.

/sarcasm
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:13, archived)
# I liked the flying saucer.
Looked very 1950s, and as such; cool.
(I helped save b3ta! JollyJack - a stench from the past, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:19, archived)
# The fridge bit was the best
The ants bit was okay and the vines bit was cringeworty. Everyone hates the vine swinging but amirite?
(cenaris Is dividing 3 by waffle, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:13, archived)
# it was all pretty ropey.
the cgi spoiled the whole thing for me.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:18, archived)
# It was brilliant
Except for the massive, honking, non-Indy errors:
The fridge - Indy is human in a crazy magic-y world, not some retarded super hero who can survive being flung a mile in a metal box.
The vines - Peh
The needless CGI infestation that irritated throughout the film and horribly ruined the ending (or rather, replaced it).

Re: aliens: Seems fine to me, from an indy point of view. Badly handled, but not WRONG for the setting. Many chums disagree.

"Indy" plus points for: Motorcycle chase, Malt shop scene, the bit where he stands on the two jeeps and gets hit in the crotch by half the jungle.

So overall summary: Someone should make a fourth Indiana Jones film, this wasn't one. It just had a character that nicked the name and look.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 15:03, archived)
# Connery is a cunt. That is all.
(glammerocity state of the art Luddite, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:15, archived)
# I'd have to dishagree.
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:16, archived)
# On the other hand
he was the inspiration for the greatest impersonator of all time.
www.johnallen007.com/
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:16, archived)
# Frank Gorshin?
(glammerocity state of the art Luddite, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:19, archived)
# I know you're joking because there isn't a person on the planet who doesn't appreciate John's skills.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:21, archived)
# Frank Gorshin was the original Riddler. Who doesn't appreciate that?
Plus, he did Burt Reynolds and Kirk Douglas.
(glammerocity state of the art Luddite, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:50, archived)
# why is it that when I move my mouse over the "email john" text
the number in the email address on the status bar goes mental?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:35, archived)
# oh wait
it does that all over the page.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:36, archived)
# Those are coordinates.
It's an image map, an html-based way of turning custom-defined areas of an image as hyperlinks. It's going to be all the rage in 1987.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 17:32, archived)
# can he bury the 3rd one while he's at it?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:19, archived)
# What was wrong with Crusade?
(I helped save b3ta! JollyJack - a stench from the past, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:20, archived)
# Sean Connery and the bigger push in to camp comedy
Raiders and Temple had a nice sort of seriousness to them, yes there were wise cracks but it felt more like Indy was in trouble.
3 and 4 were just jokes and therefore no peril.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:22, archived)
# You'd bury Crusade and keep Temple?!
Madness!
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:24, archived)
# monkey brains, insect tunnels, hearts being pulled out, voodoo-ified children versus
Denholm Elliot hilariously having trouble with a horse and Indy knobbing the same woman as his dad.

er, yep.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:30, archived)
# ^ this
Crusade sucked. IMHO.

And I quite liked crystal Skull.

*ducks*
(I helped save b3ta! Halibut If you think education is expensive, try crack., Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:58, archived)
# I will not hear anything against Shawn Connery or the blatent waysh he over enfeshishesh hish lishp in that filum
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:26, archived)
# He's a shight for shore eyesh
(glammerocity state of the art Luddite, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:53, archived)
# Doom was a much bigger attempt (note: ATTEMPT) at comedy.
It was unwatchable because of the dim blonde.
(I helped save b3ta! JollyJack - a stench from the past, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:29, archived)
# probably best to bury all but raiders then
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:32, archived)
# /\ this with bloody great clangers attatched to it!
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

Fuck off you dim, director shagging, bitch!
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:32, archived)
# "lady only here because she humping director"
(cenaris Is dividing 3 by waffle, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:35, archived)
# The dim blonde?
As in the nod to the damsel in distress that was so typical of the serial dramas they were trying to emulate?

Count yourself lucky they didn't tie her across the mine car track.
(I helped save b3ta! Halibut If you think education is expensive, try crack., Wed 11 Aug 2010, 15:00, archived)
# I never really got people's problem with her.
She played a dumb, pampered, annoying woman.

The character is dumb, pampered and annoying. She played it perfectly. The fact that she was shagging the director doesn't alter the fact that the performance delivers exactly what the role requires.

On the other hand, if people complain they don't like the character, I will permit it, with a sage nod of approval.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 15:05, archived)
# ^this.
(I helped save b3ta! Halibut If you think education is expensive, try crack., Wed 11 Aug 2010, 15:10, archived)
# I hadn't seen it. Thanks.
(I helped save b3ta! Geoff the Clownfish You know Myra, some people might think you're cute, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:22, archived)
# haha
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:22, archived)
# the fridge was good
(I helped save b3ta! Bloop Fri 16 Jul, 22:10, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:26, archived)
# Don't forget Shia LaBeouf
That guy just makes me retch. And him desecrating the motorcycle scene from the wild one was just wrong on a lot of levels.Cate was hot though.
(I helped save b3ta! sinisterduck, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:27, archived)
# I think the concept of Indy's son being a knife-totting-biker to be a rather good one.
If only the role had been better written.
(I helped save b3ta! JollyJack - a stench from the past, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:31, archived)
# And better casted
this was as bad as having Ian McKellan as the polar bear warrior king in the golden compass - if any roles screams Brian Blessed, that is the one.
(I helped save b3ta! sinisterduck, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:32, archived)
# Yeah I'd go with that
though as an atheist flying saucers carry a whole lot more weight with me than "God came down and killed the bad Nazis"
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 14:37, archived)
# I thought it was
"God came down and killed EVERYONE WHO LOOKED AT HIM".

I was ok with that, it was pretty old-testament.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 15:06, archived)
# Aliens are still more feasible than God
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 15:38, archived)
# on the one hand
but on the other, puppets are more feasable than cgi.

rule of thumb: if your fx start to look a little ropey in 20 years, this is acceptable. if they're already crap by the time the film is released, (unless you're working with no money) this is not.
(I helped save b3ta! ms morbo lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, Wed 11 Aug 2010, 19:12, archived)