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# haha
i love how the press try to find any angle to demonise these people rather than address the bloody issue. I don;t know why it matters if they don't sleep there?.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 10:49, archived)
# It's not really that difficult to find the angle - they've kind of set themselves up for the fall.
"What do we want?"

"An end to capitalism!"

"When do we want it?"

"After I've finished my McDonald's breakfast, Starbucks coffee, had a hot shower, paid a few bills, fed the cat and put on some clean clothes!"
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:16, archived)
# Sadly there's no small city farm near St. Pauls where they can barter for eggs and milk
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:17, archived)
# Barter? You mean ...
enter into a potentially capitalist system?

What are you - some kind of NAZI?!
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:19, archived)
# are they wanting an end to capitalism?
I thought it was controls to be reinstated on the banking systems so that the rich/poor divide isn't so vast
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:22, archived)
# This is very reminiscent of Ian Hislop's debate with Louise Mensch on Friday HIGNFY
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:32, archived)
# In which
one over priveledged Oxbridge graduate argued with another over priveledged Oxbridge graduate over who could creep up to the lefty audience the most
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:46, archived)
# hahahaha this
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:07, archived)
# yes I lost a lot of respect for him over that - playing for laughs in lieu of addressing the point.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:08, archived)
# and for those who wish to make up their own minds what Hislop did
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:08, archived)
# I think the top comment has it about right.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:25, archived)
# They gave her an excellent trashing.
I enjoyed it.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:11, archived)
# Nah.
She was simply shouted down by Guardian readers.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:14, archived)
# Quite frankly, I'd punishfuck her
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 14:55, archived)
# yeah you're right
fuck em with their hipster concerns and feeling they need to do something, and needing to eat and wash n'stuff
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:27, archived)
# I do think that if they've went to all this trouble, why haven't they brought a packed lunch?
And I'm sure there's other independent businesses they could go to. They should be aware that they are being scrutinised.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:44, archived)
# THIS!
I don't think anyone feels they shouldn't have a cup of coffee.
But just go to one one of the countless independent coffee shops round there rather than bloody Starbucks.
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 11:47, archived)
# But as soon as they do
people start complaining about them not being in their tents!
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:13, archived)
# just to clarify...
are these IR images taken during the night or during the day?
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:57, archived)
# I bet
they assumed people might actually be focused on the bigger urgent issues rather than what logo was on their bloody packed lunch or if they stay in the tent overnight. silly hipsters
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:00, archived)
# well then, they're fucking stupid aren't they?!
if you're trying to make a change, then you're trying to change hearts and minds. If you're of a similar mindset, you aren't going to care because it's the message that matters.

To those whose minds they are trying to change, they'll be looking for any reason to discount this act as just whinging hippiness, because people inherently fear change unless they are the ones driving it.

If they don't think that, as "ambassadors" for their cause, they aren't being watched like hawks by those willing to twist it around, then they are naive!
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:04, archived)
# I guess they never got your memo
do you have any evidence for these conclusions you've drawn then?
I mean you've obviously been down there and spoken to each individual protestor, found out what each of them is protesting and has issue with and then inspected the contents of their lunchbox matching it up to their individual issue by the sounds of it
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:28, archived)
# I'm sorry...
you've posted three lines of absolutely fuck all...
it's simple sweetheart:

1) pick a point
2) run with it

it's not hard
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:45, archived)
# I guess that's a 'no' then
you seem ok with calling them all stupid and other generalisations, implying they're hypocritical without even knowing which are actually anti-capitalist protestors or which ones are just protesting change within the financial sector. and try not to take it so personally, its only a debate, chill
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:49, archived)
# you're right...
because I have not been down to St. Pauls and met every single one of these protestors, I'm not allowed to have an opinion on any proportion (small or large) of said protestors' lacking the strength of their convictions...
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:55, archived)
# there's nowt wrong with having an opinion
but an opinion is only as good as the accurate info you've got to form it. Don't be suprised when someone is going to ask you what you're basing your assumptions and generalisations on
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:59, archived)
# the assumptions/generalisations on what?
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 14:03, archived)
# the bigger issues ...
that they're perpetuating by continuing to support them through their continued entering into the market, you mean?
(, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:06, archived)