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# yes, it's called cherubism
well done for pointing at people who are different to you.
Here, perhaps if you educate yourself a little you won't be such a twat:
www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=9508
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 13:56, archived)
# It's stupid because Cherubs are actually big fuck-off muscley angel men with swords
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 13:58, archived)
# i thought they were a band
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 13:59, archived)
# I thought that cherubs were the cute Victorian invented babies in paintings
derived from cherubim and seraphim of the bible
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 13:59, archived)
# were the seraphim not the six legged leathery winged scary ones?
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:01, archived)
# yes.
"... I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and His train filled the Hekhal (sanctuary). Above Him stood the Seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew."
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:02, archived)
# thats the ones
I knew it involved a six
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# how the fuck did he see where he was flying?
load of arse, if you ask me
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# If you must insist on going round saying that these things are imaginary
then you have no right to complain about them being able to see through wings that are imaginary. Tchoh!
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:05, archived)
# eh?
i said it was a load of arse
like 'long kiss goodnight' is a load of arse
it's fiction, and it doesn't even have the decency to make sense
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:07, archived)
# Surely fiction doesn't make sense by definition?
just because it hasn't happened.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:08, archived)
# Exactly
and what definitely doesn't make sense is going...

1) "This is all fiction!"
2) "How can they possibly see through wings that don't exist in the first place?!"
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:13, archived)
# yes it does
fiction still has to obey cause and effect or it's just a string of random words
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:16, archived)
# No it's not
quite a lot of fiction isn't internally consistent, yet it's still comprehenedable.

I mean, yeah, shit fiction, but it's still fiction.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:20, archived)
# that's my original point
it's a 'load of arse'
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:24, archived)
# that's about 95% of modern fiction though
all media
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:25, archived)
# it can still be internally consistent
apparently
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:13, archived)
# this
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:16, archived)
# can, doesn't have to
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:21, archived)
# Long Kiss Goodnight was fucking awesome
thank you very much
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:15, archived)
# i'm with you on this one
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:16, archived)
# it was a load of bollocks
badly written and directed bollocks
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:18, archived)
# Well I liked it
Geena Davis and Sam Jackson for the win
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:18, archived)
# and the nephilim?
a subset of angelic beings with human mothers?
the "watcher" angels?
the "sons of god"?
or a bunch or pasty face cowboy goths with a penchant for flour and electric hedgetrimmers?
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:16, archived)
# Hmmm
I'm writing a short film about the Nephilim at the moment

but it'll probably turn out to be a serious rip-off of Hellraiser.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:20, archived)
# in the style of Richard Stanley?
be sure to include a severed head in a barrel, lots of stalking through graveyards, cowboy hats and black & decker product placement.

oh.. you meant that angelic type.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:34, archived)
# i thought cherubs were the bits of bakewell tarts no-one ever eats
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:01, archived)
# This ^
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:04, archived)
# cherub is the singular of cherubim
saying cherubs is just me being lazy
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:02, archived)
# or talking about something different to the bible ones
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:11, archived)
# Oh? So in what context do cherubs exist outside of the bible?
I'd wager that if you ask someone who's making cherub things where cherubs are from, they'll say the bible.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:18, archived)
# well they possibly appeared in the Tanakh first
then the bible, but I've read interpretations in many works of fiction. Then there are people who paint cherubs (fat babies with wings) with no religious conotation whatsoever in the artist's mind.

But the point is cherubism the medical condition is named after the chubby babies in paintings, not the original source of those images be they large men with spears or creatures like this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Human_headed_winged_bull_facing.jpg which is a Shedu and possible original basis for the Cherubim.

It's like a bit like calling a vaccuum cleaner a hoover when its a dyson.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:25, archived)
# Yes.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:29, archived)
# I thought cherub
was what Sonny Bono used to do til he bought skis.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# cher rub?
LOLZ
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:20, archived)
# I think they were a medieval invention with looks based on cupid.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:05, archived)
# based on raphaelite paintings of cupid
Cupid/Eros were both adult men at one point. Read the Iliad.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:06, archived)
# no they weren't
primarily cos they AREN'T FUCKING REAL
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:08, archived)
# not the same thing
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:10, archived)
# i've changed this text four times now
don't think i wont do it a 5th!
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:13, archived)
# My understanding of Eros/Cupid
is that he was able to appear to man in any form he chose (I mean age of person actually )

I may be mistaken, it's been 25 years since I did any classical studies.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:09, archived)
# As much as any other god, yes
but they tend to have favourite forms.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:10, archived)
# or little
chubby babies if you are all pre-Raphealite*


wild guess at the period
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:00, archived)
# post, not pre
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# which hideous bastard thought up that name?
it sounds like a piss take at best.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 13:59, archived)
# Rawr.
I didn't know that was the name.

That's a lovely name. I know, probably not the nicest thing to have happen to you, but if I was going to have a condition, I'd want it to have a nice name.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 13:59, archived)
# no. no. no.
It's like being born one eye and having your condition named cylcopism.

It's all just a bit harsh in my opinion.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:01, archived)
# what's wrong with cylcopism?
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:02, archived)
# it just sounds a bit crap.
something more medical sounding is more appropriate.

eg. people who can't move their legs are paraplegic, not limpleg-ism sufferers.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:06, archived)
# or being born with a really crap heel
and having your condition named Achilles' Heel.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# Oh I don't know.
I think after a certain amount of time you just stop thinking about it and learn to live with whatever it is. My best mate has Spina Bifida and she calls it her shittyspineyosis.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# I still think spina bifida sounds like a fruity cocktail
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:06, archived)
# I think it sounds like a Brazillian gangfight
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:08, archived)
# everything sounds like a brazillian gangfight
hmm, maybe if you add the letter a after it
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:15, archived)
# I always thought it was 'Spina Bifta' until about 5 years ago.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:07, archived)
# Bifta = something completely different.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:08, archived)
# that's why it always amused me
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:09, archived)
# *licks*
:P
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:09, archived)
# You have cuddles-rainbow disorder
we're going to have to put you down.
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:02, archived)
# office lol
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:04, archived)
# *grabs scalpel and kidney dish*
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
(, Fri 11 May 2007, 14:04, archived)