Perspective of contagious diseases
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my god, someone with common sense?
Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:42,
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*applauds*Damn straight, that man.
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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:42,
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fuck yeah, i can whore this again!!1!
I almost feel compelled to put a youtube video below this, but I don't know if readings of Murray's mathematical biology are on there...
ed: have ruibin instead:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOO599_y2e8
Perspectivemakes things that are really small seem very large when they're right by you... Which is the whole swine flu problem all over.
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Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:44,
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30000 people die each year in the US from normal 'flu.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:45,
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surebut that's because 15 to 60 million people get it, which simply means that the mortality rate is extremely low (0.06-0.2%)
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Tue 5 May 2009, 13:52,
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I think you missed off Bendy-Buses?
Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:47,
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hahawe need a Daily Mail chart
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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:48,
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tuberculosis? nobody told me anything about tuberculosis... WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:47,
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I for one am looking forward to my leaflet telling me not to sneeze in people's faces and to wash my hands after taking a poop Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:49,
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perspective my asswhat are the morbidity and mortality rate? That's what matters!
The common flu infects 5-20% of all people and has a mortality rate of .06-2%.
Swine flu? Any idea?
Mortality estimates range from 1 to 30% and seems extremely infectious.
If we have so few deaths is because of swift reactions.
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Tue 5 May 2009, 13:49,
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The common flu infects 5-20% of all people and has a mortality rate of .06-2%.
Swine flu? Any idea?
Mortality estimates range from 1 to 30% and seems extremely infectious.
If we have so few deaths is because of swift reactions.
Which swift reactions would those be? Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:51,
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mexico city lockdownschool lockdown in NY, quarantine of infected people and people that entered in contact with them, screening for symptoms at airports, alert network for physicians.
The thing is that epidemics grow exponentially, and therefore it's always better to err on the safe side as it might be very quickly be to late.
Put yourself in the shoes of an health official that hears that mortality rate could be as high as 30%.
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Tue 5 May 2009, 13:55,
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The thing is that epidemics grow exponentially, and therefore it's always better to err on the safe side as it might be very quickly be to late.
Put yourself in the shoes of an health official that hears that mortality rate could be as high as 30%.
I was travelling in the US at the time and didn't notice any extra screening, or precautions. Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:59,
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Usually they use thermal screener that are unnoticeableand in general they only actively act (direct interview) on flights from places where the risk of contagion is high.
edit: in fact there was a bit of a row between the TSA airport screeners and homeland security officers because it appeared that homeland security did not want screeners to wear masks.
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Tue 5 May 2009, 14:02,
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edit: in fact there was a bit of a row between the TSA airport screeners and homeland security officers because it appeared that homeland security did not want screeners to wear masks.
Holy shit!We'd best PANIC then!
*runs around screaming and waving hands in the air, as instructed*
Oh my gooooood! We're allll going to DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!
(*runs around screaming and waving hands in the air, as instructed*
Oh my gooooood! We're allll going to DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Tue 5 May 2009, 14:05,
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it seems that people only have two modes:'BULLSHIT!!!' and 'PANIC!!!!'
The 'inform yourself, be aware of the symptoms and minimize the risk of contagion' seems to be generally disabled.
I agree that media, as always, are the major culprit.
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Tue 5 May 2009, 14:10,
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The 'inform yourself, be aware of the symptoms and minimize the risk of contagion' seems to be generally disabled.
I agree that media, as always, are the major culprit.
I pointed out that 30,000 people in the US die each year from normal 'flu.Your reaction was "Yeah but no but that's 'cos that's normal but this is DIFFERENT!"
It's another 'flu. Either you'll get it, or you won't.
Either you'll die, or you won't.
No amount of hand-washing or coughing into your sleeve is going to stop that, because not everyone is going to follow the rules.
As long as you're fit, healthy and preferably in your prime, then you're the least at risk.
Either way, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Going around going "Ah but these are the stats" will neither protect you nor make you better.
(It's another 'flu. Either you'll get it, or you won't.
Either you'll die, or you won't.
No amount of hand-washing or coughing into your sleeve is going to stop that, because not everyone is going to follow the rules.
As long as you're fit, healthy and preferably in your prime, then you're the least at risk.
Either way, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Going around going "Ah but these are the stats" will neither protect you nor make you better.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Tue 5 May 2009, 14:16,
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As long as you're fit, healthy and preferably in your prime, then you're the least at risk.No, not at all. This flu might cause an overreaction from the immune system (cytokine storm, scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2009/04/swine_flu_and_deaths_in_health.php after this story was published some official data were released and confirmed the higher mortality among young adults) that, in the end, kills you.
Also, to prevent spreading, is not that if one person doesn't wash their hands we are doomed. The more people pay attention to the symptoms and follow these rules, the better everyone is.
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Tue 5 May 2009, 14:28,
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Also, to prevent spreading, is not that if one person doesn't wash their hands we are doomed. The more people pay attention to the symptoms and follow these rules, the better everyone is.
SoOH MY GOD PAAAAANIC!
FFS.
Not everyone washes their hands.
Not everyone coughs into their sleeve.
Either you'll get it, or you won't.
Either you'll die, or you won't.
You may like to read the story of King Cnut.
Or fuss about getting cancer.
Either you will, or you won't.
There's absolutely nothing - NOTHING - you can do about it.
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Not everyone washes their hands.
Not everyone coughs into their sleeve.
Either you'll get it, or you won't.
Either you'll die, or you won't.
You may like to read the story of King Cnut.
Or fuss about getting cancer.
Either you will, or you won't.
There's absolutely nothing - NOTHING - you can do about it.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Tue 5 May 2009, 14:32,
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DON'T PANIC!SWINE FLU! DON'T PANIC! SWINE FLU!
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emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:54,
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Yay diseases!psst: maleria?
mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 5 May 2009, 13:55,
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TB - spread by badgersMalaria - mosquitos
Measles - weasles
Normal flu - flumingoes
Swine flu - pigs
Its an animal conspiracy!
(Measles - weasles
Normal flu - flumingoes
Swine flu - pigs
Its an animal conspiracy!
twig Save 6 Music,
Tue 5 May 2009, 14:03,
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Bastard animalsI don't like meat, but I'm eating it because animals are such cunts.
mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 5 May 2009, 14:14,
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*Click* Also done here...(
Amish Information Systems hates misplaced, commas,
Tue 5 May 2009, 14:51,
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common sense vs. sciencethe never ending battle
(no, the sun is not rotating around the earth and yes, not only you can build a boat out of metal, you can even make it fly)
edit: also the title is misleading, and it's ordered categorical data vs. ordered categorical, so the linear interpolation between two categories is meaningless. What you probably want is some correlation matrix plot (plus I doubt that the counts for all the other categories are 0).
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Tue 5 May 2009, 14:58,
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(no, the sun is not rotating around the earth and yes, not only you can build a boat out of metal, you can even make it fly)
edit: also the title is misleading, and it's ordered categorical data vs. ordered categorical, so the linear interpolation between two categories is meaningless. What you probably want is some correlation matrix plot (plus I doubt that the counts for all the other categories are 0).
hysteria......the control of Joe Public via media bullshit.................. (good job man!)
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atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Tue 5 May 2009, 16:13,
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