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# haha,
*walks off muttering about the scientific ineptitude of govornment*


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(Orkran Mild Euphoria Ensues, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:26, archived)
# I think alcohol is seen to be acceptable
as you get very stern telling off from your body the next morning.

Pain and pleasure in very clear terms of cause and effect.
(I helped save b3ta! Chickenhawk is no longer Arkwright., Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:31, archived)
# Nah.
Just because we have a thousand year tradition of getting pissed dosn't mean it's a good thing.


*Looks conspiratorially about the place*


*Sips beer*





Seriously though, it really is quite bad for you and If I was the King of the World it WOULD be illegal... nah, rationed. Yeah. Rationed. And you no obey the king, you no get the beer. Or entry into the state-sponsered breeding program. *plots*
(Orkran Mild Euphoria Ensues, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:36, archived)
# I think it's mainly seen as acceptable
because it's been in use since the dawn of civilisation.
And also because there is such a thing as moderate drinking. I never heard of anyone doing just a little bit of heroin with their Sunday dinner, for instance.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:38, archived)
# But it's nice to have a little bit of spliff.
It's quite difficult to over-do it on weed, and if you do, you're just a bit sick then go to bed...
(I helped save b3ta! Incredibly Ordinary Dave needs your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:41, archived)
# or you get paranid and run round amsterdam in a panic and...
...nothing, nothing at all
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:42, archived)
# *coughs*
*looks at feet*
(I helped save b3ta! Butters and his titanium codsocket, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:49, archived)
# or
you sit awake all night on the edge of your bed, clutching a butcher knife, staring in terror at the wardrobe doors you've tied shut with the washing line, because you're convinced something is coming out of there to get you.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:43, archived)
# Or you watch The Wall, twice, back-to-back
then look in the mirror and think you're skins falling off like that bloke in Poltergeist
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 30 Mar 2010, 8:37, archived)
# You should try it!
Really brings out the umami in gravy.
(I helped save b3ta! Jimbuktu See? Right here, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:42, archived)
# haha
that's funny!
(I helped save b3ta! 4Q just lurking, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:01, archived)
# yes, but hemp/marijuana/hashish has been around for the same time-frame
and yet one is more vilified than the other?

I just think if people can't feel the side-effects instantaneously they get paranoid...
or is that the drugs talking? Shit, I need to go lie down.
(I helped save b3ta! Chickenhawk is no longer Arkwright., Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:43, archived)
# Oh right, because Mushrooms and Hemp/Cannabis were invented last week.....
There is also a shockingly large difference between Heroin (EVIL) and other drugs. One of the biggest mistakes of the anti-drugs strategy in this country is to try and tar, say, cannabis and ecstacy (actually statistically two of the safest recreational drugs around) with the same brush as Crack Cocaine and Heroin (er, pretty fucking nasty).
Im fairly sure this leads to more Heroin and Crack use - after all, if the govornment made out like Pot was seriously bad and it wasnt, then surely they lied about Smack? Er, no.

Seriously, everyone should have to do science to A level BY LAW, especially MPs. How can you run a country with only a vaugest inkling of the scientific method and no idea about the dangers of so called "common sense". Gah.



I SAID STOP IT, BAD ORKRAN
(Orkran Mild Euphoria Ensues, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:47, archived)
# Mushroom use goes back a long way, although it's never been as mainstream,
it's had its uses in religious rituals, probably its association with paganism has put it in the bad books.

I don't know about cannabis, but smoking was never that much of a European thing as far as I know, except amongst the social elites who were into the more exotic stuff, so it's associated with decadence.

Booze, on the other hand, is the everyman's chemical escape, even the Bible attributes its invention to Noah, the ancestor of everyone living.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:54, archived)
# So are you saying that Cannabis has
no ill effects whatsoever? Bollocks.

Also, your claims that heroin is simply evil are not necessarily founded. Abuse of it, yes. But that is the same of any drug be it alcohol, weed, crack or Meth.

By the way, have you ever read Sherlock Holmes? or been to the Science Museum? Or The Natural History Museum?
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 29 Mar 2010, 23:00, archived)
# it depends upon the brand.
You don't get much more than a big appetite with the old school Lebanese hash and the like ( I'd kill for a good chunk of gold seal right now ) but you just don't see that any more.
Meanwhile everybody is getting off their face with super skink and there are some early studies that suggest there may be a link with mental health problems later in life for heavy abusers but the motives and funding behind many of the studies make their results questionable.

Oh and I've not smoked weed in about 5 years in case you thought I might be a pot-head.

Charlie and E on the other hand....
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 30 Mar 2010, 0:02, archived)
# skink?
 
STAY OFF THE LIZARDS MAN, THEY'LL FUCK YOUR SHIT RIGHT UP
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Tue 30 Mar 2010, 0:18, archived)