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This is a link post turns out 'shrooms are better than prozac for rehappinifying yourself
though my personal cure remains a nice cup of tea and a biscuit
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:14, Reply)
This is a normal post YAY! DRUGS!

(pissflaps. FSPW, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:15, Reply)
This is a normal post I suspect its not so much the power of the mushies but the relative ineffectiveness of prescription antidepressants that makes the difference

(I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:17, Reply)
This is a normal post True! Everyone I know that has taken antidepressants is a right miserable fucker.
Those that do drugs all the time are quite happy in their own little world.
 (pissflaps. FSPW, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Oooooh.....
...don't know about that pal. I've suffered with depression since I was a kid. About 17 years ago I agreed to go on anti-depressants and was first prescribed Prozac. Did fuck all. Went back and got some 'Efexor' (venlafaxine hydrochloride) and within three weeks I felt like I'd been reborn as a normal person. For the first time in my life I wasn't waking up with a heavy heart and spending the day on a knife-edge. Been on them ever since though for the last three years such a small dose that the doctors say it's not enough to even have an effect. But....your average GP doesn't understand them. They will also tell you that SRIs aren't addictive. Horseshit. Miss taking them for a couple of days and you fucking know about it, trust me. Weird sensations of little electric shocks shooting up your arms and through your head, disorientation, sleeplessness etc. One of the side effects of packing them in is depression though this might not be related to the original clinical condition so often someone will go back to their GP, say "I'm fucking really down again" and get slapped straight back on them. If GPs understood that this might not be related, and a few days toughing it out may be all that is required, then there might be fewer people on them long-term. Rant over :)
 (I helped save b3ta! routine has perfected burgers, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Mushrooms give you all this for FREE ;-)

(MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Mushrooms
can also blow your head to pieces though. It all depends on the person taking them. Yes, the visuals and audio weirdness are without compare and I agree that everyone should try them at least once, just to further complete their perception of their surroundings (and to be able to really appreciate what psychedlic culture is/was about) but a bad trip can be like walking into Hell, innit.
 (I helped save b3ta! routine has perfected burgers, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
This is a normal post SSRI's - You Can Shove 'Em
They didn't do squit for me. Except a bizzare side-effect when coming off one of them - My eyeballs "swished". Every time I moved my eyeballs - I'd get the sound, and feeling, of my eyes rubbing against my eye-lids. Most unpleasant.

The problem with major, or clinical depression (as opposed to reactive depression - you have a major traumatic event that sends you over the edge - most people eventually recover naturally) is that treatment is very much a hit and miss affair. There's no drug that works for even a significant proportion of the population all of the time. It really is trial and error - with error winning most of the time.

I spent my time in hell. A few in-patient stays at the Napoleon Factory. I went through, probably, about 10 different drug regimes and then they found one that worked - for me. Mirtazapine.

I've been on it for about 10 years now. Tried to reduce the dose or come off it a few times - unsuccessfully. A couple of days without I can handle, or a week of half the dose but that's it. Then my Black Dog symptoms come crashing through my life. Can't sleep, can't eat, can't think. So I go back to my normal dose and all is well in about 24 hours.

I think I'll stick with my drug. The alternative is feeling like it's Sunday afternoon at Gran's house and Songs Of Praise is on the telly. Every. Second. Of. Every. Day.

Cheers
 (I helped save b3ta! Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:37, Reply)
This is a normal post I was a little put off by the Zispin-branded pen the psychologist wielded, but...
Mirtazapine. Mmm. Have spent about six of the last ten years gobbling the things, on and off. On now of course (curses). Would be wonderful if it weren't for the initial bonkers appetite spike. Goodbye accusations of anorexia, hello pointed remarks about exercise! Woo.

Saw the original story and thought "ooh" before imaginings of bad trips took over. And if there's one thing of which I can be fairly certain, it's that I would be one of those who worries themselves into a bad experience.

Antidepressants would be so much sexier if they made them look like the Bad Drugs. Some kind of preperation/consumption ritual would add to the experience too.
 (I helped save b3ta! Karpati Footnote Never knowingly interesting, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 18:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Venlafaxine was the last antidepressant that I tried and
didn't do anything for me apart from causing the most insane nightmares dreams imaginable*. I came off of them after about a year because I was so numb, I had no chance of actually dealing with the root cause of my depression. Of course, being me, I didn't tell my GP and just went cold turkey. The first three to four weeks were fine, but after that I crashed. Badly. It's taken me about another year to get over the effects of the medication, but now I'm able to recognise my depressive and self destructive tendencies just about in time to alter my behaviours enough to avoid dropping off of the planet humanity completely. Everyone is different though and I'm sure that some peeps respond well to antidepressants. Not me though.

*Including one a bit like the Poseidon Adventure except that instead of escaping, the trapped passengers (several hundred of them) used all of the crap in the bottom of the boat to start a subsistence farming economy. The society needed governing, however, and eventually a crude fascist dictatorship arose to fill the power vacuum. It was my job to go in and free the masses from their evil overlords and ensure fair distribution of the potatoes. Mad, but highly entertaining.
 (I helped save b3ta! P-MONKE We're all fucked, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 15:13, Reply)
This is a normal post different for different folk.
as all the responses show. i reckon for most folk anti-Ds aren't that helpful but for some they are life changing in a good way. similar for mushrooms. some folk feel better in every way after them and some folk go bonkers and never come back. and all the shades in between for both anti-Ds and mushies. and most other psychoactive drugs medicinal or otherwise. i can't believe it's taken years of recreational and self medicatish drug taking, misery and mental health training to be this vague.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 16:59, Reply)
This is a normal post I do like the warnings they list on SSI antidepressants as side effects
"May cause depression and suicidal thoughts"
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 17:28, Reply)
This is a normal post It shouldn't really come as THAT much of a surprise, shirly?
Every time I've had mushrooms, I have giggled my arse off for HOURS.
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:30, Reply)
This is a normal post This
But only for people that have took them I guess. Boffins can evalute chemicals and brain patterns and all that science shit, but anyone that has taken one does not need a degree in the white coated arts.

As an avid hallucinagenic fan (and a piss poor speller) In my early teens I had bad depression, took one tab one night and had the usual 'this is amazing' trip with the shapes and colours, but it was the next day and the next, maybe year where it had its greatest effect. Just being re-awoken to how nice the world actually was and see-ing all the bits you miss and take for granted etc. It was about another year before I took more and then never really stopped. Not daily or anything, maybe twice a month tops since about '98 and have not suffered from deppresion since. And im not some fucking loved up hippy or shit, still get annoyed and grumpy like 'normals' but just like having a few nights or days a month to unwind. I'm harming no-one and helping me out so reccomend it to anyone to at least try, your not going to die from it and am hoping scientists are allowed to continue or start, whatever it is they want to do.
 (robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 15:01, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this.

(I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 15:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I whole heatedly endorse mushrooms
...and I could've told you that already. Buy yourselves some grow kits people :0)
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:50, Reply)
This is a normal post can you still buy kits?

(I helped save b3ta! claptonista ,the idiot boy..........🫥, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep
www.redeyefrog.co.uk. Or .com maybe. I'd recommend the Yangoons. They're excellent.


*Wayne's World voice*
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:06, Reply)
This is a normal post PUSHERMAN PUSHERMAN PUSHERMAN!!!!

(I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Aye, but he knows a lot about Sean Connery...
...that's hardly a substitute!
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)
This is a normal post well who would have guessed?

(I helped save b3ta! nocturne72, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 13:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Ha!
On a serious note though; I used to be quite a depressive person (I suppose most people have been there at some point). Doing mushrooms every now and then really changes your outlook on life. One person given them in an experiment to see if they helped with terminal illnesses (mentally, not physically, obviously) described the experience as akin to the birth of of her first child...
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:03, Reply)
This is a normal post a terminal mental illness??

(Ol' Ginger Bastard a role model for the children, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Suicidal?

(MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Extreme pain and anger as she tried to push a rugby ball through a rubber band, you mean?
Mushrooms shouldn't do that :-/
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:21, Reply)
This is a normal post I think she was talking about after the baby was born.
She had cancer I think.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Speaking of mushrooms,
anyone who's a wikipedia contributor could you fix the Badger Badger page which says it came out on valentines day 2003.

It was September 2nd b3ta.com/board/1894021 and was in the newsletter on the 5th www.b3ta.com/newsletter/issue103/
 (I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:36, Reply)
This is a normal post send a messsage to thewub
he's on b3ta/twitter and a wikipedia person
 (I helped save b3ta! rob, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks,
it's fixed now :)
 (I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 15:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Taken 'shrooms a few times...
...Had a blast every time. Less intense than acid but the residual effects are much shorter so you don't have to spend 12 hours watching the walls melt, or your chips wandering around the plate, desperate to go to sleep but unable to do so.

It's outrageous that they're Class A.
 (Megamoss, Tue 24 Jan 2012, 16:31, Reply)