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This is a link post The Independent clarifies the whole animal sentience thing
I wonder if the people that signed petitions for this eu law to become uk law thought about how little it protects animals?

It allows bull fighting and force feeding of geese for foie gras for example.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 8:37, Reply)
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Good. I like Foie Gras. Fuck geese, they're loud and annoying.

'Zac Goldsmith said that the discussion of the vote was “weird and dishonest”' - He'd fucking know he's an expert in "weird and dishonest"

Another MP called the reporting fake news and said: "This government, and in fact all governments, are deeply committed to continuing to protect animals as sentient beings. That law is already written into our own law.” (That much isn’t true: there’s no mention of sentience in existing UK law.)

So basically you've got two tories lying directly to our faces again and we don't actually have a better version of the act anywhere in sight? But yeah, fuck you Europe!
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 8:45, Reply)
This is a normal post So you support a cruel practice because geese are "loud and annoying" but get worked up about this act not becoming law?
I can only assume that you care more about the eu as an institution than what they actually do.

I look forward to the debate when some eu workers rights legislation is debated and changed slightly when it becomes uk law. No doubt you will be decrying any change to eu workers rights despite showing quite thatcherite views in the past.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:17, Reply)
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when did I get worked up about this? I said (and I quote from the original thread) "It's a pattern of behaviour. See also the proposed scrapping of the human rights act." Would you like a link, as you're clearly a bit too thick to remember things:
For Cerebus, becuase he's a moron

I don't really give a shit about animals, except that I want them to taste nice and that generally involves not battery farming or torturing them...except for geese, I'm really 100% fine with french people torturing them.

You do know that Thatcher was hugely pro-europe right? As in she was a competent politician with half a brain that could see being a leading star of the worlds greatest free market, might just be a plus for the financial future of the country? Unlike you, you dumb yokel.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, you're clearly not worked up at all.

(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:01, Reply)
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See, geese are assholes.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Jesus!
does that thing have teeth on it's tongue?
 (I helped save b3ta! My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 12:16, Reply)
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yep, saw it on QI so it must be true
 (I helped save b3ta! unclepills Sixty 25th of Decembers, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 12:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep
They are even pointed backwards like sharks teeth


 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 14:22, Reply)
This is a normal post I had no idea
geese contained Lovecraftian horrors in their beaks.
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 18:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Half agreeing with Dinivan
Strange days.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:57, Reply)
This is a normal post I think this animal rights angle has got some traction
We've seen how 52% people are so thick and racist they'd happily bin their own rights and living standards in exchange for a bendy banana, where do you go from there?

The little fluffy lambs, perfect
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:03, Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Still doesn't answer why the MPs voted against it
and when they will actually put animal sentience in to any of the animal welfare bills that Theresa May and Michael Gove assure us are adequate enough
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Phew, as long as May and Gove are on it, we'll all be just peachy.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 8:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I could read Hansard and find out why each m.p voted the way they did but seeing as it was split done party lines I would guess "politics"
Hansard link

The tories didn't want to bring over what they saw as bad legislation and the opposition wanted to defeat the tories.

As for when Gove couldn't answer that on the Today program this morning but I would guess it will to avoid another embarrassing situation like this.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Don’t bother. It’s depressing reading.
Votes are basically along party lines with the odd rebel.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 17:16, Reply)
This is a normal post I reckon my vacuum cleaner is probably more intelligent than most animals now. Fuck em, we only need them for their meat.

(I helped save b3ta! 2 Can Chunder Word to your mums, I came to prod bums, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:10, Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Why hasn't the eu banned these cruel prisoners of sentient dustmites?
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Also that photo is fucking awful.
Hose clearly not connected to the pole and the handle would never rest at 45 degrees like that.

Fake news!
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:29, Reply)
This is a normal post My dog's clever enough to tell me he doesn't want to eat cows, even though they are not quite as clever
So I buy him this

 (I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:33, Reply)
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This vegetarian/vegan recipe is completely free from meat and meat by-products which can eliminate some skin and fur complaints, stomach and intestinal problems and hyperactivity which could be caused by the consumption of meat.
 (I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:34, Reply)
This is a normal post When we go for walks in the countryside he chases cabbages instead of rabbits, whoosa good boy

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:35, Reply)
This is a normal post So if you offered him a bit of steak full of lovely marbling he's refuse it?
Fairy nuff, if you're giving him what he wants.

I've got cats and that's not an option.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:38, Reply)
This is a normal post He's clever enough to recognise that his animalistic cravings are at odds with an ethical viewpoint, and that the suffering of fellow beasts is too high a price to pay

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:43, Reply)
This is a normal post I am beginning to wonder
if you may be attributing a little too much intelligence to your dog.
 (I helped save b3ta! My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 12:20, Reply)
This is a normal post It has however published a rather splendid critique of Jean-Paul Sartre's La transcendance de l'égo.

(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 15:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Does it contain wheat?
Dogs can't digest wheat, so they just shit it out in huge dollops. I feed my dog on a lamb/rice food and only have to pick up a few Maltezers.
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 9:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Interestingly, dogs have more copies of the gene for amylase compared to wolves:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/01/diet-shaped-dog-domestication
 (I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:09, Reply)
This is a normal post Yarrah is fucking rank. Our dogs hate the stuff and it looks like snot.
It's a little harder to get hold of, but Benevo Duo is a far nicer looking/smelling product.
 (Huw Edwards Digital ID is fine, shut up, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 10:27, Reply)
This is a normal post vegetarian cat food is animal cruelty

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This is a normal post I saw a lion chasing a gazelle once.
When it caught up with it it offered it a potato.
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 11:41, Reply)
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arf
 (I helped save b3ta! unclepills Sixty 25th of Decembers, Fri 24 Nov 2017, 12:38, Reply)