There's No Edinburgh In The Festival
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( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 16:18, Share, Reply)
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( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 16:18, Share, Reply)
Your thesis appears to be
that the council have spent an awful lot of money doing up the city centre (and I'll admit that it's very nice), but not much on the outer regions.
I don't see why that's the fault of the Edinburgh Festival organisers. They're not in control of council finances. Further to that, unless you can show that the Edinburgh Festival is a net drain on the local economy, I don't see how encouraging it to leave will change the situation for the better.
Nor are they in control of AirBnB and their predatory (sorry, disruptive) pricing model. That is a year-round problem, and indeed a problem globally, and is by no means restricted to the one month a year that the Edinburgh Festival is on.
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 17:47, Share, Reply)
that the council have spent an awful lot of money doing up the city centre (and I'll admit that it's very nice), but not much on the outer regions.
I don't see why that's the fault of the Edinburgh Festival organisers. They're not in control of council finances. Further to that, unless you can show that the Edinburgh Festival is a net drain on the local economy, I don't see how encouraging it to leave will change the situation for the better.
Nor are they in control of AirBnB and their predatory (sorry, disruptive) pricing model. That is a year-round problem, and indeed a problem globally, and is by no means restricted to the one month a year that the Edinburgh Festival is on.
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 17:47, Share, Reply)
In Baltimore, when local artists/musicians got tired of the direction of Artscape, they created their own alternative festival, Whartscape. Rather than running tourist dollars out of Edinburgh, put on your own events for the types of acts you want to see.
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 20:27, Share, Reply)
Sorry, couldn't help myself
( , Wed 21 Aug 2019, 2:23, Share, Reply)
Yeah, that thing that generates hundreds of millions for your local economy. It's awful. Let's get rid of it.
Pretty good at backing the wrong horse aren't you?
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 22:08, Share, Reply)
Seems a worse deal for the performers than the locals tbh.
I suspect gentrification is going to end up killing the festival, rather than the festival causing the gentrification.
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 22:33, Share, Reply)
I suspect gentrification is going to end up killing the festival, rather than the festival causing the gentrification.
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 22:33, Share, Reply)
Takes off sunglasses for CSI winger
(puts sunglasses back on for next scene)
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 22:33, Share, Reply)
(puts sunglasses back on for next scene)
( , Mon 19 Aug 2019, 22:33, Share, Reply)
The Fringe has always had these effects. I used to avoid Edinburgh like the plague during the Fringe just because the cost of accommodation went through the roof. It's maybe worse now but it was never good.
( , Tue 20 Aug 2019, 21:14, Share, Reply)
I wasn't always like this
When I last went to the Fringe (with my dad) I was a bairn living in Edinburgh and it was 1974, and it was pretty good and far less commercial. What's changed since then is that it's become far more commercial. But when I last visited Edinburgh after 20 years what I noticed most is how much the Scottish whinged about the English. Seriously - even tour guides were doing it. It was never that bad as far as I can remember. Grow a pair FFS - Scotland should be proud that they regularly beat their far larger neighbour in battle on a regular basis and should be proud of that fact, instead of wasting energy in all this venom.
( , Wed 21 Aug 2019, 11:33, Share, Reply)
When I last went to the Fringe (with my dad) I was a bairn living in Edinburgh and it was 1974, and it was pretty good and far less commercial. What's changed since then is that it's become far more commercial. But when I last visited Edinburgh after 20 years what I noticed most is how much the Scottish whinged about the English. Seriously - even tour guides were doing it. It was never that bad as far as I can remember. Grow a pair FFS - Scotland should be proud that they regularly beat their far larger neighbour in battle on a regular basis and should be proud of that fact, instead of wasting energy in all this venom.
( , Wed 21 Aug 2019, 11:33, Share, Reply)
It has always been the same. I moved from England to live near Edinburgh when I was 5 years old and I was always a "bloody Sassenach" or worse. Pretty confusing for a kid and it led to lots of bullying through the years. It's still there as an adult but less overt. I still love Scotland but have never had any doubt about the antipathy of many Scots towards the English.
( , Wed 21 Aug 2019, 17:29, Share, Reply)
Utter rubbish. There's always somebody still banging on about anti-English feeling in Scotland, and how they've been persecuted all their life. Of course there are always a few xenophobic nutters in any country (I understand that there may be one or two people in England that dislike foreigners?) but it's daft to suggest that's anything but a tiny minority.
If there really is significant anti English "bullying", it's a mystery why so many people of English origin choose to become Scots, settling here and raising families. I have numerous neighbours and colleagues who originally hail from south of the border. I wonder why they've specifically chosen to live a life of misery here...?
I don't really understand what point the guy in the video is trying to make. Sure, some of the festival is elitist, but that's been the case since it started. There are also free events, popular comics doing shows with honesty boxes, street buskers, etc. You can just take a wander round town and see what's going on. Suggesting that an influx of thousands of tourists spending money has no indirect benefit to the wider community is plainly wrong.
Oh, and most people already call it "The Festival"and have done for years!
( , Wed 21 Aug 2019, 18:57, Share, Reply)