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This is a link post "They're Sexy, They're Cute - Take Off Your Riot Suit"
Come on Everyone - Join in?! : )

Comical lap dance moment from the 2010 G20 Protest in Toronto.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:01, Reply)
This is a normal post must be hard for them to resist the urge to batton those guys
...
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:10, Reply)
This is a normal post
Oh, G20 protesters, you're so funny....Protesting things...and believing that the governments of the world should....do stuff...and not do some other stuff....because erm.....you know.....there's an oil slick or something...and..erm......war is bad.....and.....

What do we want?
SOMETHING OR OTHER!
When do we want it?
NOW!
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh Thanks - I just lost my Semi!
; )
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:21, Reply)
This is a normal post I have never understood G8 and G20 protests.
What the hell are they protesting about? The summits are ostensibly to ensure stability and growth - they're not talking about clubbing baby seals or congratulating themselves on extending the usage of fossil fuels.

The G summits are not environmental summits either.

Baffled.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe in thier own misguided way they understand...
...endless growth will destroy us. Unless we go out there, we live somewhere with finite resources.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Well you could understand the Make Poverty History one.
since they were discussing Africa's debt etc. at the summit.

I think the rest of them have been people who just really enjoy protesting. It's a nice day out, and they can meet other like-minded arse-holes.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:38, Reply)
This is a normal post odd how you don't see protests when it's pissing down with rain
or when there's three feet of snow

or when people have jobs to go to
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 23:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Because Governments and Banks are big and BAD!
(unless you want to borrow money or buy a house or need a Government department to serve your personal interests, in which case they are ok. BUT OTHERWISE BAD!)
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Damn you capitalism!
Damn you for ensuring that I have a number of options on how to ensure food and shelter for myself, and damn you for allowing a system to evolve whereby there are structures in place for the improvement of medicine, healthcare, education and standards of living!

I'm going back to nature, so i can live in a tree to avoid being eaten by bears, until I die of pox.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:48, Reply)
This is a normal post not sure where to start with that one

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:16, Reply)
This is a normal post info to help explain
here
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 22:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Not a bad article.
and a convincing arguement. I believe in protest but for me those guys just look like a bunch of cunts.
(, Wed 30 Jun 2010, 12:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Growth
Well, growth is what causes all the environmental problems...and the misguided lovelies who think that holding hands across beaches is going to change anything are far worse IMHO than the taunters who, after all, are trying to get a reaction from the police to show them for what they are - tools of a corporate state system.

And relax.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 23:35, Reply)
This is a normal post No, man...
That's like, totally unfair, yeah, because we just want to show our disapproval of, like, the existing power structures that mean the world's run by capitalist bastards, yeah?

(And I'm on my gap year and wanted to look cool when I get to Uni by saying I've been an 'activist' when I've actually spent most of the last year travelling around the World in passenger jets and patronising poor people in all the places I've visited, yeah?)
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:29, Reply)
This is a normal post ha..
the words 'gap yah' spring to mind.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Damn good point
What I want is for the leaders of the world to invest their nations money in sustainable energy and electric cars (though biofuels can fuck off because they will starve the world's poorest nations and kill the last rainforests just for the west's cars), cancel debt for the poorest counties (which mainly exists due to our selling them weapons and their corrupt leaders defaulting on payment) and work together in the UN to protect countries from being picked on who are of little "value" to us (eg, Western Sahara being under siege from Morocco for 30 years)

So what I'm going to do is sit on my arse in front of my computer until these leaders notice I'm sulky and annoyed, and fucking well do something about it!
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:48, Reply)
This is a normal post the problem is....
A lot of people there DON'T know what they are really there for, and let's imagine that you went there to make your point (which you havent, you're sat on the net too), there is such a mix of voices wanting to draw attention to a wide number of issues that it just becomes a white noise of shouting and smashing up McDonalds.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:52, Reply)
This is a normal post So what's your plan?

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:56, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not the one screaming for change.

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:00, Reply)
This is a normal post how do you know
that a lot of people there DONT know what they are there for? Have you taken a poll???
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:04, Reply)
This is a normal post well said

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:28, Reply)
This is a normal post I applaud your suggestions
I will blog about them vociferously, and perchance even tweet.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Aren't protests with
too many disparate aims ultimately flawed, though? It makes it hard for anyone to sum up what the protest is about. Is it about green issues? Poverty? Human rights? It just becomes a left protest against the right.

Because of this, such protests always seem to be sabotaged by smaller political parties. I saw an anti-nazi one when the BNP were in Leeds. If you wanted to be on that march, you'd be stood under a lots of logos for far left groups which I also wouldn't agree with their policies.

I agree that it's better to do something, but sometimes think that lots of lone voices are better than a mob.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:07, Reply)
This is a normal post i agree
but fuck sustainable energy i want a sustainable population
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:18, Reply)
This is a normal post True.
I wonder if the reason that population explosion is hardly mentioned (even though it's necessary as part of a solution for all these issues) is that it's a not a left/right thing. Everyone should have less kids, which would involve a personal sacrifice for many people who'd want more than one, including many green protesters.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah
You've hit the nail on the head. Hardly going to be a popular cause like Saving the Rainforest, is it...
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:47, Reply)
This is a normal post My pet hate
is electric cars. First, you have to dig up the entire country, every road and car park, to install wiring that could cope with the extra demand. Then you need to install charging points, at a cost of... That would take years, by which time we might have found some better way. You then need every precious metal on the planet for all the electronics and batteries, (which are hard to recycle). Oh, and 2,000 new power stations to charge all the cars.
It is a VERY silly idea.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:39, Reply)
This is a normal post plus they sound really shite

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 14:48, Reply)
This is a normal post ok, so electric's out before it's started
So we do nothing, carry on with the oil, hope something better comes along and..?

Like it, soldier. It's a robust plan.

We'd need more electricity, fine. We can build more power stations. Those power stations will, initially, use the same fuel as the cars, but eventually we go over to wind power, wave power and, when they finally perfect it, fusion. We need to change our infrastructure - so what? If we don't change it, we die: It's really very simple.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:03, Reply)
This is a normal post surely it'd be best for the planet if we did die?

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:15, Reply)
This is a normal post lol, well I can't argue with that :-)

(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:24, Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't say we do nothing
I just suggested we stopped howling at the moon with silly ideas. O level physics will tell you energy never runs out, it simply changes form. Newton will tell you for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Whatever we harness from the wind or sea, there will be a price to pay somewhere; especially with the amount we are talking about to power the planet. The only free energy we get without a 'physics' price is the sun. I suggest we work on harnessing that.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Seems fair :-)
How about marshmallows on really long sticks?

Drop one of those bad boys in your cocoa, it'll boil instantly...no more microwaves needed!! :-D
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Now that idea I like!
But it does really bug me that people rant, even violently protest, without thinking it through. Take wind energy. If a turbine was able (they aren't yet) to harness 1% of the wind passing it, the wind the other side hass 99% of the power it had. So 100 turbines would mean a dead calm on the lee side. Pollen relies on wind, as does much of nature. What are the quincyquonces? I don't think we know.
If we dam every river or bay to grab tidal power, what does that do th the eco-systems that existed there? I don't think we know.
In summary, I'm not about to go and bash a copper over the head to save the planet when I have no idea what I'm talking about.
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Having no idea what you're talking about
If you'd like to have an idea what you're talking about, try reading this book, available for free online Sustainable Energy - without the hot air by Prof. David MacKay.
(, Wed 30 Jun 2010, 16:04, Reply)
This is a normal post *AHEM*
Hydrogen fuel cells maybe?
(, Wed 30 Jun 2010, 17:03, Reply)
This is a normal post No G20 protester will bring down capitalism faster...
than the capitalists themselves
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:21, Reply)
This is a normal post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q
(, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 13:43, Reply)