We're All In This Together!
David Cameron was accused of 'gross insensitivity' last night after it was revealed that internships with City hedge funds were sold to wealthy Tories' children for thousands of pounds to raise cash for the party.
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I made this last week
when I read about the tories trying to turn the UK into a corporate tax haven. Seems more apt for this story:
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Damocles wants no part of your debauchery, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:33,
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I really want to find out who did the 'F*ck the poor' photoshop during the pre-election compo.
It was absolutely great and I've not been able to track it down.
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:37,
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The whole 'Big Society'
thing is bollocks. It's the most dishonest name for a policy ever. It's basically the economics of Milton Friedman and Thatcher - the idea that if the state stops providing things, markets and individuals will provide it instead. It is absolute nonsense.
How they can play something up as a positive policy for society when it's basically saying -'You're on your own - sort yourself out' is disgraceful. Most likely, of course, it's because even if they didn't believe that it would work, nearly everyone in this government is rich and always has been.
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What has someone paying for their kid to have an internship got to do with
'the idea that if the state stops providing things...'
or 'the economics of Milton Friedman and Thatcher'?
Offensive; yes, idiotic; obviously, but nothing to do with the coalition.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:45,
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I think they meant it to be for the link below.........
The whole big society policy is that most things will be handed to the people to run, as he was saying, that state stops providing any input into local autorities and such. Saying tha they should be run by the people.
Its packaged as a good idea but in my opinion its a complete joke and would do nothing more than damage the organisations its pruports to improve for many reasons taht are far too long to go into in one post!
One thing that is good about the coming year though is I'm a photographer in london, stuff on fire looks great in pictures*....................
*caution, may be sarcasm.
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Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:52,
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Emperor's New Clothes...
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:58,
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So people's personal actions
and what they find acceptable ethically in their own lives has no connection to their broader politics?
The fact that they think this sort of thing's okay has no connection to them thinking that a free for all with reduced state intervention is okay?
(Although, admittedly, it was meant as a reply to the below, but the point stands!)
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This makes a lot more sense as a reply to the last link.
I would have just stuck with that rather than struggling to make it fit.
The way the Conservative party raises funds has to appeal to people that give the Conservative party funds, it doesn't have to reflect their policies, not that we have a Conservative government anyway.
As for criticising politicians for their personal actions rather than their professional accountability, personally I'm against it.
I think the coalition has been doing a pretty good job so far and that the cabinet (I can't speak for the idiots that make up the backbenches) have remained remarkably principled and coherent throughout an unexpected and unique set of circumstances.
I totally agree that this stupid fundraiser is horrible and degrading but please don't use it as an opportunity to deride a collaborative project for which a lot of politicians have risked their careers and the future of their political parties to help undertake. Big Society is pretty much hated by the old-school of the Conservative Party, its ridiculous to criticise it for being the creation of that party and its association with that party.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:19,
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the coalition is working well
as cover for a same as they ever were tory government.
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tickle I was away, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:29,
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Respectfully, I disagree
but then again, I'm only 27 so I don't really have any first hand experience of the Conservative party being out of opposition.
Does anyone know how many Conservative MPs were MPs the last time the Conservative party were in power? I'd be interested to find out.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:37,
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fair enough.
i'm not much older than you. i'm not sure i see what the number of long standing tory mps has to do with it. it's still the tory party, they are still mostly racist and homophobic and still hold poor people entirely responsible for their poverty. (also i was also a bit wide in a response to you further down the page, sorry about that, i kind of knew it was wide and did it anyway. i could blame tiredness but it's more likely to have been the cunt in me getting loose {loose cunt :)} sorry again)
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tickle I was away, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:42,
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I try not to judge people according to labels
Saying that people are racist and homophobic because they belong to the Conservative party is inconsistent with the way I assess people and in fact with my personal experience of Westminster.
As for their political views, I may not agree with them but I don't count them as hateful as making value judgements about people based on ethnicity, sexual preference or political ideology.
Never apologise for arguing on the internet though, I of all people can take it.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:49,
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i didn't say that people are racist/homophobic because they belong to the tory party.
i didn't even say that they joined the tory party because they are racist/homophobic. i said that tories are mostly racists and homophobes. i'd rather you criticize what i say rather than what you would like me to have said/thought i said. also i find it odd that you are lumping together ethnicity, sexual preference and political ideology in terms of value judgements. ethnicity and sexuality are not a matter of personal choice. ideology is. are you saying i can't make a value judgement of an ideology? if we were talking about the bnp i doubt you would be trying to make this flimsy point.
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tickle I was away, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 15:06,
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it's still the tory party, they are still mostly racist and homophobic
Sorry but I'm not going to have an argument with someone who says things like this, its pointless. I know that isn't true and I think its a lazy, stupid thing to say.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 18:11,
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you don't
know the tory party as well as you think you do. they suddenly stopped being a overtly nasty racists around 2003. prior to that there are a wealth of news stories about various tory mps and councillors being blatent racists and homophobes. so either they've all changed their opinions spontaneously or they realised that their racist and homophobic opinions were losing them votes. look at their voting record on gay rights for fuck's sake. refusing to discuss it with me is lazy and stupid.
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tickle I was away, Tue 15 Feb 2011, 0:13,
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I want to run a school
I have no teaching qualifications
no CRB check
no money
no building
where do i sign up?
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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:18,
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Sorry, I know we promised you that new school
but we didn't get elected and we didn't have any money anyway, sorry, lols.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:20,
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If we're given the 'power' to form schools, hospitals and other services ourselves...
...then what the fuck are we paying politicians for?
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Kung_Fu_Russ ran out of amusing signatures on, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:20,
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