"New Indie"
Killers, Kings of Leon, The Feeling, The Fray, The View, The Kooks. They look the same, dress the same & sound the same & yet were supposed to admire their diversity. THERE FUCKING SHIT!!! There music makes me want to staple my man tits to a childs bike. I genuinely hope they all fall down a well. The people who are into these bands were into dance music 3 years ago before they were told to like someone else. They've inspired countless twatish dress senses, skinny jeans & check shirts with hair-cuts that would make Limahl spit in their gaunt fucking faces. I genuinely hate music now. Oh, & one more thing, if there signed to Sony, Universal etc... THERE NOT FUCKING INDIE!!! For the confused amongst you, indie means independant as in independant label. Just thought I'd clear that up for some of you!
(Dr Fishfinger Want's to see a fat man give a tit wank, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:07, 18 replies)

Re labels
Yes, but they'll corporatise anything as soon as they recognise a cash cow, won't they?

"Indie? As in independent? Well, let's sign a load of people who like they fit the stereotype for it and remarket as another generic musical style."

And I agree. All of it sounds the same and is self-indulgent faux-cockney shit.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:11, closed)

Self-indulgent faux-cockney shit.
Yeah. Especially those Kings of Leon. Pearly Kings, presumably.
(Vice Admiral Sir Charles Cockbrush KCB MBE DSO, who is finding it increasingly difficult to log into b3ta.com wants to duck your aunt and kick your puppy, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:19, closed)

Yeah, you know they're just pretending to sound American...
Obviously the American ones don't do it, but I'm increasingly convinced that every British group/singer feels the need to slacken their jaw and try to sing like Lily Allen or Pete Doherty in that irritating faux-cockney accent.
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:48, closed)

Ermm
They're and their
( Sunburn Go on.... It's character building!, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:12, closed)

yawn!
your wrong about kings of leon - they never intended to be 'indie' (as you put it) .....

indie just means - indepenent label. if they sell lots of records they done stop being 'indie' - unless they then sign to warner.... which i believe is what they did.
(youareallveryveryveryunhelpful, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:19, closed)

KOL
are however, ravenously marketed down my throat.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:30, closed)

I think you mean
you're
(MyFakeName, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:29, closed)

See, to me
there are two types of music; honest and cynical.

I'm not a massive fan of any of your targets but I really feel like I have to defend people when I think they are making (or have largely made) honest music. Some of what you're saying seems to be judging the value of music on the basis of who's people buying it, rather than the music itself and that doesn't sit with me.

I do see where you're going, but your reasons for being angry about these bands aren't (purely) musical (though you're obviously more than entitled to think they are musically shit as well). The main reason I say this is because of your inclusion of KoL and The Feeling in the category. The Feeling are a pop band, pure and simple. They write unashamedly pop songs, they do it well. They're exactly what they say on the tin. Honest. Yeah they look a bit "Indie", but musically they just aren't and never have been. T'ent my bag, but it makes perfect sense to me that they're popular and the quality of their songs musically is such that I'm glad they are. They write honest music. The record buying public could, and does, do far worse.

On KoL it seems to me that you've included them just cos they're rocky and overplayed. Sure be pissed off at them, but be so because of the machine that has used Sex on Fire to turn them into a boy band. I'm less sure with them because I don't know their recent music very well but I can't see evidence to show that they set out to cash in on the record buying masses - they just did what they do and the machine and hordes of sheeple latched on eventually. Honest not cynical. I think the Killers fall into this category too to some extent.

The rest, to different extents, lazy, average, cynical. You can pull them to pieces on many fronts immediately. Personally I don't like them because they are musically (and I mean musically, not because of "sound", "image" or anything like that) derivative. I personally see no need for them. But they're the musical equivalent of fast food and I eat fast food. I'm a musical epicurian, not a gastronomic one. Some people just aren't into music. That's who those bands are for. Personally I don't have a problem with that.

Music is awesome. It always has been and always will be. You just have to work to find the good honest music. Its no worse now than it ever has been. You're just going to have to look harder and its going to get worse as the industry goes down the pan financially and they can only focus on the hypercommercial money makers.

Or you can just complain that you don't like what everyone else (who doesn't want to work for their music, latches onto what they are force fed, probably because they are more into other things, or yes maybe they're just shallow) likes.

Personally music is important enough to me that I work to try to decide if I like it rather than hate it immediately because lots of other people like it. Its just as bad as only liking what you hear / see because everyone else likes it - you're letting other people dictate your taste. And predominantly the exact people you're trying to dissassociate from.

But then that was the question. Essay over.
( Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:43, closed)

hey lady
You call him Dr Jones!
(TheManWithThePlan cussed your mum on, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:43, closed)

Daaaaaawwwwwwwwww

( Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:07, closed)

Wha?
If you feel the Killers, Feeling and Kings of Leon sound the same then perhaps your stereo is broken. Spot on about the others though.
(Rilux might be pregnant and has bum-aids, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:40, closed)

modern indie
there are still some great bands out there (admittedly not all on indie labels). Grizzly Bear, Battles...
(Alphabet Soap boshboshboshbosh, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 14:52, closed)

What this man said
Hard. I saw a band the other day that had been described as "The best band in Britain today" by NME. They were playing in my student union at a free gig, and if that pile of talentless cunts are the best we have to offer then I will get off my sofa right now and fling myself headfirst through the window in despair.

It just goes to show that the fucking cunts responsible for the fucking music media should be slowly tortured.
( MatJ LOOK, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 21:23, closed)

Hmm.
I don't think these things are 'indie' at all.
I dislike most of the bands you're talking about, because they're so middle-of-the-road, neither good or bad enough to be interesting. Just boring. However, I do think The Kooks had two good songs (forgot their names though.)
Now, Kings of Leon I really like... my musical taste is usually quite different from most of the 'mainstream' stuff, but what in heaven's name is wrong with a good pop song for example? Back to KoL, their first album was nice, but their previous album was really great. Awesome cd. Their latest one is okay as well, I don't think it's their fault that they suddenly got turned into this anthem rock band...
To be honest, people who like music but refuse to listen to ANYTHING that gets airplay annoy me. I try to give EVERYTHING a honest chance, I think pop music today is great, yes it might be cheap & cheesy, but it's still unbelievably catchy.
(St. Dymphna, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 23:23, closed)

Soundalikes
What a lot of old twaddle. Some of you agree that some of the bands mentioned sound the same. KOL are excused for being American and The Feeling for being unpretentious pop. The two bands left that apparently sound similar are The Kooks and The View. It sounds like you've heard a few chords and decided they're the same. The View sing in a Dundonian acccent for a start and their second album was hardly mainstream (note it wasn't overplayed as a result) nor does it sound similar to every other band under the indie bracket.
(muzzvsworld, Mon 19 Oct 2009, 11:36, closed)

First two
KoL albums, top notch, some really nice southern roots in there. Second two, mediocre, far too wailing and self indulgent.
(LickOutTheJamsMotherfuckers!, Mon 19 Oct 2009, 23:22, closed)

I hate new indie!
As the title suggests, I hate "New Indie" & lots of other people like it, the whole basis of the QoW. My annoyance stems from the fact that they are not indie, & people believe that indie is a sound & indeed a dress code! It's like how people claim to be MOTOWN fans, & yet have no idea that it's not a genre, but a record label! For me to express my disdain for every band that falls into this category would take many, many lines of text & I just can't be arsed! Molly's chambers by KOL was a good tune, Molly's hangover was even better, so I don't automatically hate every band I hear (well, ok, I probably do, but I've given them all ample opportunity to impress!) It's not so much that I hate them for what they've done to music, Rap, Rn'B & Boy bands started to destroy it a long time ago, & I'd much rather see bands like "New Indie" sorts in the charts, with instruments & the ability to play them, than 4 boys in white suits & flip flops doing dance moves or sitting on bar stools singing a Terry Jacks cover! My biggest beef, is the twunts who frequent the clubs I spent many happy year at because they play these bands music. Chavs & scallies who like dance music & Rap, but are even bigger fans of Sex on Fire now. It's caused troble to brew in what were once happy places. Sorry that was so long, & many thanks for your input, much love x
(Dr Fishfinger Want's to see a fat man give a tit wank, Wed 21 Oct 2009, 0:44, closed)

^this
( Ping_Pang_Piddley_Dee couldn't give a big shiny fuck., Wed 21 Oct 2009, 12:14, closed)