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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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And I would never date a man I knew had visited one because I think payting for sex puts you into a certain category. Pretty much every study has shown that women who enter prostitution are likely to have far higher rates of mental illness, be sexually diseased and unable to experience pleasure in a normal sexual relationship. That's apart from the fairly strong link between being abused as a child, or sexually assaulted as an adult.
We don't legalise child labour because it might give a way for children to help support their families so why should we legalise an industry that brings those sort of problems with it
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:24, 4 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
Prostitution is glamourous and sexy
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:25, Reply)
but they felt that highlighted the prostitution part rather than the romantic part.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:28, Reply)
And maybe even an attempt to start it as a meme.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:35, Reply)
And I don't want a meme I just want a day of glessing for a change.
Are you coming to my birthday party in March?
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:36, Reply)
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:38, Reply)
I never question your typing Gonz :)
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:39, Reply)
It always ends in happiness except when Vippers says the same just before I post.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:28, Reply)
You'll never get rid of it so we can try to make it safer is all.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:27, Reply)
But in this case it isn't by legalising it. An official way for (mainly woman) to sell their bodies rather than get a real job, and to have it destigmatised. Reducing sex down to a transaction in which all the power results with the customer is more than a llittle disturbing. Nor will it tackle the prblem with illegal sex workers because the profits are too big, and you're talking about relying on punters to go the legal route- hardly the most morally upstanding person around. Do you think most of them really care about whether their prostitute is here legally- or for that matter has consented.
Sorry about mistakes am on my phone
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:37, Reply)
not implying that I know, but I think it would be surprising.
it is never going to go away, so legalising and regulating is the best that can be done to reduce the issues with it.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:41, Reply)
I find it difficult to believe that a Latvian girl who doesn't speak English has many customers worried about the fine detail of consent
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:53, Reply)
I suspect your are correct on that point. I can't say I know all that much about the statistics of how many prostitutes are in what situation.
Can't really make much of an argument without that.
The point being though, it's shit as it is, if something can be done through regulation that helps some, without hurting others, then surely it should be done
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:06, Reply)
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:42, Reply)
It's just far to endemic in society to ban outright. The more you push it underground then the more dangerous it becomes. The best thing is to concentrate on tackling the non-consensual side of the prostitution business and let the women who choose to work be safe and healthy.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:45, Reply)
I would be overjoyed if the Government allowed my bitches and hos some form of health and insurance plans.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:48, Reply)
that I've never seen it offered haha
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:57, Reply)
the private staff are so much hotter than NHS ones.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:00, Reply)
taking the moral high ground isn't some sort of academic wishy-washy if only the world was better, it's an step towards saying the world *should* be better and it's our choice about whether we try and make it so.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:56, Reply)
nothing will ever change in my lifetime and likely nothing will ever change because of me. But at least I'll have given it a shot
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:02, Reply)
You do what you can where you can and in the places that need it the most.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:04, Reply)
Unless there already other professions around then nobody could have afforded to pay for the whores.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:44, Reply)
Most women who do it do no other type of work in their lives.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:56, Reply)
that's a job. A profession requires specific educational training as far as I remember i.e. doctor, teacher, lawyer. Being a prostitute means lying on your back and faking not being repulsed.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:01, Reply)
but if I was paying for it, I'd want the hooker to be some kind of medal winning sex athelete who could and would blow my mind.
I think that is what my brain would assume to be the norm, rather than the exception. It's a bit odd in here.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:13, Reply)
of St Pauls in Bristol what you're going to get is broken-down old nag
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:20, Reply)
but no offence the type of people who go into it don't really seem to find it hard. But yes, physically I imagine it's rather easy
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:13, Reply)
What is the 'type' and how do you know how flippantly they have entered the 'business' or whether they did it willingly at all?
That's really mean.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:18, Reply)
*shrugs* the point I was trying to make is they're still doing it. If it was that hard they would find some way to quit. And if they did it unwillingly- that is rape, and they don't find it easy obviously. We're talking though about women who have presumably consented.
The reason *I* would find it hard is I have no motivating desperation or reason why I have to and thus the idea of sex for money is repulsive.
Sorry if it came across as being horrible though
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:21, Reply)
Some of them have been being used this way since they were teenagers and have such little self-esteem or independent thought that they can't even comtemplate a way out.
You can't assume that because they can't/won't do what you would do in that situation that they deserve everything they get, and really love lying on their back pretending not to be repulsed.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:25, Reply)
an argument in favour of prostitution to me. Nor is it the sort of thing that will be stamped out by legalisation.
How on earth have I said they deserve everything they get? They are obviously and patently victims. They are also victims of a system that doesn't actually seem to see much wrong with this going ahead and people paying money to take advantage of them. Legalising it isn't going to change anything.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:30, Reply)
I was talking about how you were implying it was easy and that if they wanted to leave they'd have left by now, and how there is a 'type'.
The world has many shades of grey, that's all I'm saying. Using terms like 'type' will get us nowhere. If you're debating something like this you can't make assumptions or bring your prejudices into it.
I'm not debating whether or not to legalise it, but the way you expressed your views made me feel a bit sad.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:34, Reply)
I made it quite clear that when I said easy I was talking about physically, rather than mentally. People are tougher mentally than they are physically.
We may have to agree to disagree but I can't ever find prostitution right or morally acceptable, and I thought I'd made it relatively clear that it isn't the prostitutes I'm blaming but the demand for them.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:42, Reply)
I'll ruminate on things like this, but I don't get vehement because I reckon that there's always something life can teach me.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:45, Reply)
our wires crossed. I can be a bit judgemental sometimes I know but usually it's just because I get too impassioned about things
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:51, Reply)
maybe more women just need to be slags?
you've only got yourselves to blame here
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:47, Reply)
it's a slogan that dumb slags need to understand, and by this I do not in any way mean Roota or Amberl
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 16:54, Reply)
"Kill me some animal and make me a fire and I'll let you have sex on me"
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:50, Reply)
is funded by groups that have a vested interest in studies resulting in exactly those outcomes.
not disagreeing with you, just saying.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:34, Reply)
It's an awesome book which brings to light the the argument between 'Industrialists' and 'environmentalist'... and how they _both_ have an invested interest in the studies to the arguement.
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:39, Reply)
At an old place I worked, they would talk about it all the time, they would talk about what I would consider abuse of these women, and I felt sickened when I heard these stories. [I just wrote one of them, and felt I didn't want that sort of thing on here, so I've replaced it with this note]
But what about :-
- The widow who just wants to feel a human touch without while he waits to die to be with their partner?
- The buisnesman who doesn't want to hurt anyone because his life is 100% buisness but wants the occasional human touch?
- The young kid who is to shy to be phsyicly (fakely) intermet with someone else?
- The 40 year old virgin?
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:37, Reply)
but sadly I think you'll find the categories of bereaved widower and shy internet virgins don't make up a very large percentage
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:49, Reply)
have you been paying ANY attention to where you're posting?
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:50, Reply)
This is very true *goes off to find a prostitute for herself*
(, Mon 17 Jan 2011, 15:58, Reply)
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