Another thing that annoys me, reminded by Vippers discussion, is hygiene.
We never had hygiene when I was a kid and I survived. I don't remember any kids at my school with bloody allergies. These days every other kid out there has a fucking inhaler and or skin condition. Not enough dirt and germs in their diet is the problem. Five million cleaning solutions out there to wipe away every bit of muck from the home and now we have kids who are bed-ridden at the first sign of a tummy upset.

More cleanliness and less hygeine.

This diatribe has been brought to you by the mucky duck party.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:28, 4 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

The skin conditions are easily explained.
It's because all cothes these days are made by brown people in sweatshops, and them touching clothes mean that British kids get gammy skin.

I am Monty and I award myself a fiver.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:30, Reply)

I'm with you here
I don't tend to worry too much about that stuff. I was just reeling out the "dishwashers are great" spiel.

I've noticed that fuck loads of people these days are "allergic" to dairy or gluten and stuff.

How did that happen? or are people just being whinging losers?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:32, Reply)

It's not really a surprise though.
Years ago, people used a lot more fresh produce than they do now. There is probably a generation of kids who don't know how to cook, believing instead that to cook something like, a sheppards pie, all you have to do is remove the film-lid and put it in the over for half an hour.

All of those additives and preservatives have got to be the cause of a lot of these allergies.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:36, Reply)

personal experience though
dairy doesn't agree with my mrs, and wheat doesn't agree with my bro's mrs, and both were brought up in the home cooking, no readymeal environment that I was
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:37, Reply)

Another point of view could be that these have always been around
and we are just diagnosing them now.

I'm going with the soft shite view though
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:37, Reply)

see, I wondered about your first point
but I'm not so sure.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:39, Reply)

soft shite is just one of the many symptoms.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:39, Reply)

Or maybe, as conditions and medicine improve, people feel better in general and therefore notice when something makes them feel bad?
Plus there's the whole it's-not-killing-you-these-days-so-you-get-the-chance-to-pass-on-your-shoddy-genes-to-your-offspring aspect.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:39, Reply)

that sounds like the sensible argument
but surely it doesn't take much to think "hmm, every time I drink milk I feel like I'm going to burst"

what probably happened is that in the past people were more inclined to keep their fucking moaning to themselves, and not feel the need to slap a label on it.

the only good thing about it is that coeliac is a bit like coelacanth
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:44, Reply)

Terence Conran said as much a few years ago.
Quite a brave/foolhardy thing to say if you are a restaurateur, I thought. I agree with the sentiment though: my ex runs around with fucking Dettol all day and I think it's a bad idea.

Kids who grow up on farms etc are probably way more robust than some poor sterile-enviromnent kids...
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:40, Reply)

Kids should eat worms and dirt
It is an integral part of growing up
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:41, Reply)

In the south we prefer 'food'.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:42, Reply)

food being bummed by the vicar + his goat
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:43, Reply)

that's true
my farm-reared mates are the most robust specimens.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:41, Reply)

Is your daughter a victim of Demestos abuse?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:41, Reply)

You are on form today Jeff
I may need to make a new pic
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:42, Reply)

I can hardly muster the energy to tell you to Leave

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:43, Reply)

I'll be gone in a

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:46, Reply)

Jackololz
(again)
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:47, Reply)

*throws up on the old mans slippers*

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:47, Reply)

I like this private joke A LOT.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

Or a JIFfy

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:47, Reply)

Are you trying to
(Mr) Muscle in on this sub-thread?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I'll be Calgon in a minute

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

Just
Finish.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:52, Reply)

haha!

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:45, Reply)

We as a human race have survived thousands of years without proper hygiene and all of a sudden it's OMG! your chopping board hasn't been steam cleaned this week.
I'm all for cleanliness and I don't allow my cats on the kitchen work surfaces, (although it doesn't stop them), but I think people take things too far nowadays.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:43, Reply)

I blame asylum seekers.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:45, Reply)

They're too clean for my liking.
And they smell of exotic things I don't recognize.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:46, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1120474
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:47, Reply)

Does this mean you owe me a fiver?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I think I've got to pay myself a tenner.
Sorry Monty.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

Another 2000 of them and you'll be sorted !

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:59, Reply)

I blame the Nazis

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:48, Reply)

This said
I'm allergic to loads of stuff, have asthma etc etc, but I'm sure there was plenty of dirt in my childhood, and no-one else has it. Pollution would strike me as more likely for asthma at least, and maybe pesticides for the foods.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:48, Reply)

You're probably just the runt of the litter : )

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:49, Reply)

I'm the eldest!
We're supposed to be the strongest. But yeah home-cooked meals, plenty of outdoor exercise etc seem to have done nothing for me
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:51, Reply)

You've got consumption.
Sorry to be the bearer etc.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:52, Reply)

You're not sorry at all you bastard

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:56, Reply)

I think it's because you're brainy. All the good genes are concentrated in your head, leaving all the crap genes for your body.
I on the other hand, being a bit dense, is as strong as an Ox. Biology 101 with Blousie.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:53, Reply)

I did have a dream once
where a doctor congratulated me on not wanting children, because I was a dead-end of human evolution. I was one of the next-along mutations that just didn't work out because my body was shit.

Also you don't strike me as dense in the least
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:56, Reply)

Spooky!
I'm not stupid but I did do an art degree for reasons other than I can draw : )
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 15:02, Reply)

I think the drawing
might be the salient point haha.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 15:07, Reply)

This would also explain why you're single Blousie.
As I read in a book once, that you aren't supposed to covet your neighbours ox.

If you move a bit further away, all the boys local to where you live now will be beating a path to you door.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:56, Reply)

Excellent!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 14:56, Reply)

I hope not.
They all seem to be 5 foot tall.
( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 15:03, Reply)

These cows are small.
Those are far away. (In keeping with the Ox theme)


( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 15:05, Reply)

haha!

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 15:09, Reply)

I don'y keep in with themes
but I love this
www.stumbleupon.com/su/2rbHgi/www.blameitonthevoices.com/2011/02/scaring-s-out-of-kids.html
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 14 Mar 2011, 15:12, Reply)