Fuck, don't start that, it'll bring bert back
I've personally never taken any 'illegal' drugs, never seen any attraction in doing so, and *really* hate being round people who are drunk or drugged up, but even I found his pathetic moralising unbearable.

And you all know how patient and forgiving I can be...
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:39, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

You've never even been intrigued?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:39, Reply)

Not once.
I don't like the idea of not being in control.

And frankly, I can make a big enough tit of myself without it.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:40, Reply)

Christ I was bored to tears with 'control' by my early teens.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:41, Reply)

You can be on MD's and be "in control"
Or maybe start with SDs
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:41, Reply)

*something about you not doing it right*
I will chime with B3th's opinion as it is shared by my better half, who will freely admit to being a control freak
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:43, Reply)

I can understand that
but overcoming that fear and stepping into the unknown - or technicolour hyperspace coupled with ego death in the case of DMT - has done me a lot of good as a person, I believe.

'Body' drugs such as cocaine have been my downfall, and they're the most 'in control' substances out there.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:46, Reply)

Psychedelics freak me right the fuck out
Ever since my first (and last) trip at Reading festival, 1997
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:47, Reply)

They're fucking freaky. They should freak you out.
A lack of respect for (or ignorance of the potency of) psychedelics can fuck anyone right up. I used to love taking them at festivals but only after I'd already had 20+ trips in an un-scary rural environment first.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:51, Reply)

Ah, yes, well, you see, I was fucking stupid
Never done a class A, 18 years of age, having a shit first outdoor festival, there with my ex and best mate who'd decided to cop off with each other that weekend in the adjoining tent.

I readily accepted the offer of "something to cheer you up".

It did not work.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:55, Reply)

Oh, terrible environment. No wonder.
Timothey Leary's advice on 'set and setting' is most sage.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:00, Reply)

This is a valid point.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:44, Reply)

A cheeky toke, little line, half a pill...most people would be in a fairly good mental state i would have thought...
On second thoughts that is the opening line from a police interview with the guy that dealt to leah betts...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:45, Reply)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Leah Betts died because her mates had no fucking idea how to deal with a bad reaction to E

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:46, Reply)

I think they gave her a colonic to hydrate her
She sohould have stuck to CAKE
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:46, Reply)

It's a motherfucking disgrace

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:47, Reply)

Right i'm off, Monday...done!
Bye all!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:48, Reply)

Didn't she die because they gave her water?
I understand that's a bad thing to do to someone e'd off their tits.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:49, Reply)

What you want to give them is Ketamin

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:50, Reply)

Yes, I believe she drowned, technically
Depending upon what you do with your pilled-up evening - I tend to spend mine dancing like a twat, it's a popular choice - a spot of rehydration is a good idea, but her friends may have overdone.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:51, Reply)

Too much water, possibly - but on the whole no.
In a club/rave environment a drink of water is probably a good idea.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:52, Reply)

You cannot prepare for someone being such a shiteweight they drop dead
after a couple of shoddy E's.

/cunt

Real answer: the poor girl was clearly allergic to something - like as not the cut rather than the ecstasy itself, all 5% of the pill that it probably was.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:49, Reply)

This is one of my big problems with it
you can never be sure what it's cut with. Also, given that I ended up in hospital after smoking some strong skunk, I'm clearly too much of a pussy to be doing anything else.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:54, Reply)

Mostly harmless shite like chalk
but I understand your wariness. Unfortunately if you are me you know people who know the chemists who actually manufacture these things so you can know 100% what's in them. I'd never take an 'E' pill or even MDMA powder again though, as it depresses me severely. I'd advise against prolonged use of that stuff.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:58, Reply)

Meh.
I also don't understand why, when you tell people you're not interested, they feel the need to change your mind completely.

Nothing personal against you, I know you're just stating a point, in a discussion that I started, but if I say no and I mean it, why not just drop it?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:48, Reply)

I feel like this about babies.
Also drugs, but mostly babies.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:49, Reply)

Oh, god, babies too.
I don't want one, I'm never going to have one, I don't want to see yours, and I certainly don't want to hold it.

And don't get prissy if I call it an 'it'.

And fuck off.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:50, Reply)

And no, I'm not going to change my mind when I get older
I can't get much older before I only have one swimmer per gallon anyway and I don't want one yet.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:51, Reply)

*childless men of B3ta fist-bumps*
Again.

B3th, you can join our club, but you have to bump with a different part of you.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:52, Reply)

I made mr b3th dance with me at our wedding to this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56tBm7nJ1QM

We didn't have a proper first dance, so this was as close as we got.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:04, Reply)

I'm pushing the end of my fertile years already
so hopefully they might stop soon.

But really, where do people get off treating you like a second class citizen just because you had the good sense not to push an improbably large item out of your fanny?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:53, Reply)

A significant number of people turn into cunts when they have children.
Whether they be rude cunts, who use their pushchairs as weapons when walking through town, tedious cunts who won't stop fucking talking about their fucking children (I'm looking at you, Woman in Finance Down the Hall), or deluded cunts who think that doing something that cockroaches are capable of somehow qualifies them to force their entirely execrable opinions on the world.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:57, Reply)

Hey! Some of us were cunts already!
Don't blame the kids, man.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:59, Reply)

haha
fair play
( Kroney, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:05, Reply)

out of interest
is it the same reason for drink?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:04, Reply)

I'm not sure I understand your question
You may need to clarify that one for me...
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:06, Reply)

Oh ignore her, she's pissed.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:06, Reply)

you said you dislike being around drunk people
I assumed you didn't drink (or only very lightly) and wondered if it was the same reason as not liking drugs
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:07, Reply)

Pissed up people
when you aren't one yourself, can be, from experience, even more annoying than high people. But at least they go to bed earlier.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:08, Reply)

this is true
though I think proper stoners are more annoying myself
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:10, Reply)

Californian hippies are the worst people on earth.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:34, Reply)

that's mostly down to my dad
he's not alcoholic, but he turns into a right cunt when he drinks. And he's one of those that doesn't know which pint should be his last.

I'm usually the driver, so I don't get to drink very often. I'm not very good at it, so two drinks will see my giggling like a mong, throwing myself at people, and falling over.

In my experience, most people who are drunk (not drinking, but actually drunk) will act like loud, boorish, unfunny twats. Some have said that if I drink too, I won't care, but I have so little patience at the best of times that I can't stand drunk people for more than about five minutes before I want to fuck off and do something else.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:11, Reply)

that's fair enough
luckily most times I'm around drunk people, I'm drunk myself. This probably means we should never bash-coincide haha
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:14, Reply)

Two dirty martinies is my limit, three and I'm under the table... four and I'm under the host.
/ac
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:41, Reply)

I don't get that either.
If someone isn't interested then fair enough - but I am interested in why someone who clearly has an agile and enquiring mind might say they'd never even been intrigued. I certainly wouldn't judge and I'd hope vice versa.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 17:55, Reply)

Oh, I certainly wouldn't judge anyone based on how they spend their time
As long as you're not hurying me or anyone I love, why would I care?

But to answer your question, I have inherited a very addictive personality from my dad. Whenever I develop a new fetish (as it were), I throw myself into it with far too much enthusiasm, then end up making a tit of myself when I lose interest or get in over my head. I know that if I started to take any kind of drug, I'd be the one that ends up blowing men in phone boxes for a line of baking powder.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:02, Reply)

I'm sorry to laugh but that's a hilarious turn of phrase.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:03, Reply)

But what if they're hurting the people _they_ love?
Perhaps due to not understanding, someone who takes drugs reguarly hurts someone they love all the time, fact. And if they don't, then that person truley isn't loved.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:45, Reply)