hmmm
I think I am sold on this. I like books A LOT, but they are so heavy and space demanding
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:41, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I'm undecided.
It's very difficult to lose your book collection due to a technological fuck-up. You need a fuck-off good fire for that. Or a flood.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:45, Reply)

I reckon it's like ipod
I download some stuff, but the things I really like I get on CD.

so, do I want the 3G or non 3G one?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:46, Reply)

How often would you be away from the internet (wifi), _and_ want to download new content at the same time?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:53, Reply)

um, rarely I imagine
do you do it via usb and your computer the rest of the time?

i suppose students could give me essays via wi fi. I think that would be shit though
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:03, Reply)

waiT!
I need a wifi connection? I don't have one of those :(
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:15, Reply)

I think you can USB it, but it might need wifi.
You can set one up on your laptop or computer if it has a card... Most of them do over the last 10 years, and if not, cards are cheap, like a tenner
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:19, Reply)

I'd have to get a card, I think
I built the computer and don't remember putting one in.

3G, though, could be more like Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy if you can access wikipedia
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:22, Reply)

A nuke could centre on your house holding all your electronics and you'll still not only have all your books, but all your bookmarks.
A book on the kindle system is linked to the account, they don't charge for re-downloading and your bookmarks, notes (you can write notes into the book) are all saved. They also have a built in dictionary and Wikipedia links if you don't know a word.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:52, Reply)

I love the smell and touch of books.
I could never get a kindle.
( girlinthehole, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:47, Reply)

they are very very nice
and there is no way I'd stop buying books, especially 2nd hand places, but this could mean so much less carrying things around
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:49, Reply)

Yeah second hand books are great and all, until you get to page 59 and some dirty cunt has wiped a snot across the whole page

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:10, Reply)

you need to get yourself to a better class of 2nd hand bookshop

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:12, Reply)

Safest to stick with a kindle

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:16, Reply)

The only thing to keep in mind is that eBooks aren't _that_ much cheaper than their phsyical copies.
Which although sounds like due to manufacturing it should be a lot less; when you buy a book, it's not the paper you're buying, it's the content... this is much fairer, cuts out the medium so more money goes to the author/right-holder. It also allows for relativly unknown authors to publish something without the investment needed to go into print. Book Shops take a huge hit with the popularity with these things, but I reckon people who would buy Kindle books would be buying online and therefore bypassing normal retail channels anyway. Printers should be very worried with the advent of colour ePaper that will come to market towards the end of the year (in the same way that CD Manufactures have).

Also, the big arguement about lending books out, is not true, you can lend books out on Amazon.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:50, Reply)

well just like ipods have brought about
a vinyl (and other physical media) fetish, so too will people still idolise the material object of a book
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:52, Reply)

Also as BGB says up there, it can't replicate the smell or textures, the feeling of cracking a spine for the first time, seeing stains in a second hand cookbook.
But it does everything else and then some.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:54, Reply)

you crack the spine?!
urgh! heathen!
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:56, Reply)

Yeah!
Let's crack HIS spine, see how he likes it.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:42, Reply)

Never lend books
Admiral Adama says it's a bad idea so it must be.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:52, Reply)

I always do
I love being able to discuss favourite books with people. I used to live in a house where we all liked similar things, we'd trade washing up duties to be the next person to read part of a series. Game of Thrones was one of them. Good times.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 9:57, Reply)

Yeah I was totally kidding
I've lost track of the number of people I've leant World War Z to. Because everyone should read it. I won't lend my copy of Watchmen, but that's because it's Watchmen.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:00, Reply)

i bloody loved world war z!
much much better than any zombie book has any right to be.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:02, Reply)

Yes indeed
Extraordinarily inventive and worryingly descriptive
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:13, Reply)

I hope they don't ruin it by making a crap film
I still reckon a TV mini series in a documentary style would be the best way to bring it to screen.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:19, Reply)

yes
like Series 7, although that was more reality TV
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:20, Reply)

I saw that when it came out
I can't remember what it was like now.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:22, Reply)

it was very cool
made like a TV series back to back. A game where people had to kill all the other participants, like Assassin (if you've played that) only real
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:24, Reply)

I absolutely agree with this
They are making a film but I can see it descending into a by-the-numbers zombie film, because obviously we need another one of them. No studio will make a film without a central character and strong plot thrust.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:20, Reply)

+ Brad Pitt

( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:22, Reply)

www.imdb.com/name/nm0286975/news#ni11039947
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:25, Reply)

I knew his Plan B company were behind it
Al's right, it needs to be filmed as it was written, or it loses what made it great in the first place.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:29, Reply)

The whole thing with the interview with the guy who turns out to be Paul Redeker
wouldn't work if you knew it was a mental asylum.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:33, Reply)

clever camera work could make that happen

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:34, Reply)

The only bits I can see working in the way the studio would want them to
would be the Battle of Yonkers and possibly the two Japanese guys. Everything else will require time and depth to flesh out. Not doable in a two-hour film.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:41, Reply)

The bit with the latino pilot (who is clearly going to be played by Michelle Rodriguez)
would also work as a film.

In fact the Japanese guys and the pilot one would actually work better as a film, otherwise they would end up being "re-enactment" style shots. But with Yonkers you could do it documentary style as the whole point was that it all got filmed with head set cameras as well as the media.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:50, Reply)

I would fucking love that
but I reckon they'll end up mounting it as a huge pitched battle with millions of Zack, shock and awe in reverse style
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:52, Reply)

It's not fairer Gonz
it's large publishing companies trying to make more money, the same as how an mp3 is pretty much the same as a CD, but bands aren't making any more money out of it, only the record companies.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:09, Reply)

authors make something crazy like 5p a book
normally. Unless you suck Richard and JUdy cock, you aren't going to make lots of money as an author
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:11, Reply)

I think the book split is like the AppStore.....70/30.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:14, Reply)

Yes, but that 70% is going to the publisher, not the author
If you self publish, and sell a lot, you can make money. But the publishing house doesn't have to pay out for actually having a physical book made, so it's making a lot more profit.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 1 Jun 2011, 10:18, Reply)