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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Depends a lot on the school and the existing child's personality
I've observed a number of people who had a Strongly Catholic Element in their upbringing. Most still have residing guilt complexes, even despite most of them being more or less atheist nowadays. One has all the makings of a basket case, but seems never to have twigged that his neuroses stem from the church he continues to attend without fail. I know one example who seems to have emerged free of the shame and guilt complexes, but then she was clearly quite headstrong to begin with.

So yes, in case you haven't guessed from that little ramble, I have great suspicions about the Catholic Church. (Most of my objections to the CofE relate to my shit primary school and the vicar next door to my parents being a cunt.) So I guess the question is: just how much more shit are the non-faith schools? You could always let her go to the faith school but keep a close eye on how she develops.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:36, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)
They are very shit indeed.
The kids don't speak the same language as their teachers. It'd be like sending my kid to a 'special' school.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:38, Reply)
Hmm.
My parents sent me to a CofE primary school on the grounds it had a good name. But then most of the kids, by the age of 8 or 9, were laughing off most of the risible attempts to drill the gospel into us. Take a good look at that school - if it's not a convent in disguise then she might be alright, but keep an eye on her. And pat her down for crucifixes and rosary beads each time she visits.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:41, Reply)
I went to a CofE primary
and it was rather charming. Pilgrim's Progress etc, the whole school had less than 100 pupils so it was rather quaint.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:43, Reply)
So did I
A few hymns in assembly and that was it.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:45, Reply)
Most of them can't even count to bibbedy.

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)
Savages
I bet they all throw spears at each other in the playground and all...
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:47, Reply)
My daughter's the only 'honky' in her year.

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:50, Reply)
Ah, well then if Treasure Island is anything to go by
surely all her classmates will recognise her natural superiority and look to her to lead them?
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:52, Reply)
I am assuming this is what will happen.
I've told her to demand they call her 'bwana'.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:53, Reply)
I read about it in a Tintin book too, so it must be true
(I'll have to see if I can get you a copy of Tintin in the Congo; whatever you think of the be-quiffed Belgian, I think this particular one will be right up your street...)
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:56, Reply)
Do they all have huge lips and bones through their noses?
Belgians are weird.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:09, Reply)
I am aware of its, ah, delicate handling of the 'race issue'...

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)
I agree.
However I think a lot of the guilt thing is related back to the outsdie of school reinforcment, My missus did the whole catholic school thing and has very catholic parents and she still has some of the residual issues which are so ingrained that even my heathen influence hasnt been able to break them down. I feel thought that if outside of the school as long as it isnt being rammed down the childs neck all the time she should be bright enough to make up her own mind... Unless she is a bit mongy
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:42, Reply)
It's been years since I've rammed it down a catholic school girls neck.

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:46, Reply)
I did consider editing but thought I would leave a nice easy gag line
(see what I have done again)
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:55, Reply)
In my experience
that's almost nothing to do with the church, and more to do with the child's upbringing, parents and personality.

basket cases with neuroses will have them whether there is a church to blame or not. Cunt parents are cunt parents whatever they believe in. Relgion is frequently just a convenient excuse.

Of course, it's also a controlling, manipulating shithead too. But I seriously doubt that even Cathlolicism can "turn" someone into a basket case.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:51, Reply)
You're probably quite right
I just can't help but think a doctrine which puts so much emphasis on shame, guilt and a running theme of "you're not as perfect as god is, what are you doing to make up for your failings?" helps to emphasise such neuroses in those who are showing the first signs of becoming a basket case.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:54, Reply)
I think anyone that tells children they're perfect is causing just as much damage.

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:56, Reply)
Oh absolutely
But they serve a valuable purpose to society by providing mawkish faux-documentary fodder for E4 and BBC3.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)
by that argument every single fucking women's magazine in the world
is at least as bad.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:57, Reply)
Yep.
I also think they have a lot to answer for.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)
also, I'm probably now contractually obliged to point out
that the Catholic church doesn't really roll like that any more. It's pretty much CofE with more incense and wine and wafers these days.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 14:58, Reply)
Well yeah, excepting the CofE are all proddy sinners who'll burn in hell

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:07, Reply)
Of course, of course.
As will my wife, now, since she married A SINNER.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:08, Reply)
I'd rather get 'sex tips' from Grazia
than from a hairy-nostrilled old Paddy in a dress.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:04, Reply)
Did you genuinely get any sex tips from school lessons?
The most constructive sexual comment any teacher ever gave my class was written on some kid's biology coursework drawing. "call that a vagina, Houlston? you could park a bus in that"
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:07, Reply)
Hahahaha!

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)
My art teacher liked it in her mouth when I was on the vinegars.

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:11, Reply)
My art teacher apparently fucked Mick Hucknall
says it all, really.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:14, Reply)
Did he really?

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:15, Reply)
Oh, zing. 7/10
now, my art teacher from the age of 12 to 14 was a bloke, actually. But to be fair, this was a lady type. Clearly a fucking deranged and blind ladytype with no taste, but still.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:17, Reply)
Your art teacher had the 'chop' while he was an adolescent?

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:29, Reply)
Those teenage years stopped being hard after 14

(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:30, Reply)
MUCH LIKE HIS COCK!
You know, because it was chopped off and inverted to make an artificial vagina...
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:35, Reply)
Oh, you know what I mean, Crow.
Two different teachers.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:39, Reply)
I know what you mean
I just take a perverse delight in being facetious.
(, Wed 11 Jan 2012, 15:45, Reply)

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