So here's my prediction for korea war 2, world war 3 or whatever it'll be called
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22082309

North do a missile test.
South or Japan or US shoot it down.
North retaliate by firing at Islands, or demilitarized zone
South and US air strikes
Movement of nuclear material
War
China closes it's border with the North.
Lots of people die, shaky peace for another decade and the same again.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:27, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

There won't be a war.

( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:28, Reply)

Course there will.
Some people have itchy trigger fingers.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:29, Reply)

No there won't. It's all just posturing.
They know perfectly well China won't back them up. They might look crazy, but I doubt they're suicidal.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:30, Reply)

It's posturing yes.
but posturing happens before every war. It might come to nothing but there's nothing to say that the North don't believe what they're saying.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:33, Reply)

well we're out so reach so fuck em

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:35, Reply)

THey make a lot of shiny shiny gadgets in south korea.
We might have to pay more for TVs :(
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:36, Reply)

we'll be ok, we've both got new ones!

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:37, Reply)

No, No we aint out of reach

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:37, Reply)

yeah we are

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:37, Reply)

If they can reach the US which is 3600miles
We are only 3400miles, I think thats what it said the other day
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:45, Reply)

I don't imagine, despite our posturing, that we're important enough to be a target.
Not that they can even seem to get a rocket in the air so far, let alone four thousand miles.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:49, Reply)

I have seen their nuke programme

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 16:06, Reply)

Yes, there is. China have openly said
"Start a war and you're on your own, lads".

There's no way at all NK will attack SK knowing full well the US will steam in immediately and they'll have no help at all. None.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:38, Reply)

The US will not steam in immediately.
THere's no way in hell any country could do a proper land invasion to North Korea except the South, and they'd need to go to a Total war footing which I don't think they're willing to do.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:41, Reply)

And there's only so much a air campaign can do.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:42, Reply)

It could take out any significant military capabilities they have.
In fact, isn't the reason North Korea is doing all this because the US has sent a few spy planes over to see which bits they would need to take out, if necessary?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:49, Reply)

The logic of getting angry because you're being spied on
and then getting all your military out to have a good old sabre rattle, showing the world exactly what you've got and where, escapes me.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:51, Reply)

They're not exactly known for their common sense though.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:53, Reply)

No, they're doing it because the UN imposed the harshest sanctions yet.
And the South and the US are doing military manovers near their borders.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:54, Reply)

Military manovers sound well gay.

( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:54, Reply)

If only the US had naval and airforce bases strewn around the Indian Ocean.
If only they thought to land their troops in South Korea. It'd be SK's military supported by the UN. It's unlikely the US would go in unilaterally, I'll admit, but they wouldn't have to worry about it for this one. There's not a country on Earth that wouldn't be happier without the Kims in control of NK.

The only thing historically that has stopped the US stamping out NK is China. That protection is no longer there. Is was China and the USSR that brought the last Korean war to a standstill and there's no support there anymore.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:45, Reply)

I bet the US feel silly now.........Ohhhhh wait I see what you did there

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:47, Reply)

1 million man trained army.
That wasn't there in the first war.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:50, Reply)

Yeah, pretty scary for the guys on the ground.
But then the guys on the ground will be supported by the rest of the world including airforces. I wonder what sort of a hole a few daisy cutters will make in a wall of a million men.

They'd have to be suicidal. There's no way they could win.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:53, Reply)

They don't stand in one place.
They're spread out in dense rainforrest. To put it in context it's three times the size of the Iraqi army at the time of the Iraq war, and better equipped. They have 1600ish Military aircraft. And enough artillary already pointed at Seoul to drop 5000 rounds an hour.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:59, Reply)

Poor Seoul. They still wouldn't win. You must know this.

( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 16:02, Reply)

They could win, all they have to do is make it more costly than America/UN/NATO are willing to accept.
It's what happened in Vietnam.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 16:06, Reply)

Well yes, they could force a stalemate. That is what happened last time, after all. With Chinese help.
Incidentally, last time there were 1.6 million men on the NK side of the war compared to 0.9 on ours. All I'm saying is the numbers sound scary, but the reality doesn't necessarily match up.
( Kroney, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 16:08, Reply)

They might have 1600 aircraft but there are almost all 40+ years old
A couple of squadrons of MiG-29s that the pilots are barely allowed to fly in due to fuel restrictions.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 9 Apr 2013, 16:37, Reply)

This is like that time travel kill hitler shit.
Go, chompy, go take your sniper riffal to North Korea. YOU CAN STOP THE THIRD WORLD WAR BEFORE IT HAPPENS.... GO, NOW, TAKE HEED MY FRIEND, MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.

I'll look after the misses.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:38, Reply)

The UN are rubbish mods though.
So there probably will be, but it'll be declared illegal again. And America will be all like 'Yeah, don't care, soz', and we'll have to say 'Sorry Europe, America are mental. Can we come back and be in your gang again?', and Europe will be all 'Yeah, fuck off, losers.'
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:31, Reply)

It some ways it might be a good thing, if we crippled them enough, maybe the regime would have to change and the country would be free
this may be ideological...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:30, Reply)