Prism
What about all this eh? Reckon it's a cause for concern? Reckon it's conspiracy nonsense? Reckon it's probably real but so what?

I veer toward option 3.

Alt: Place your bets - Prince Phil or Nelson M to die first?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 11:54, 65 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

I don't care, I'm on pay as you go innit

( Peej, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 11:55, Reply)

I'm going with 'fuck off, cunt'.

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 11:55, Reply)

Well really.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 11:56, Reply)

You might find greater opportunities for discussion on matters such as this over on /links

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:02, Reply)

You're quite right.
I should have said 'fuck off you Chompy-copying cunt'.
( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:09, Reply)

Prism works

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 11:55, Reply)

if anyone wants to sift through my unbearably tedious emails and texts about work and angst over the ex
they are perfectly welcome to them.

overall i think it's a bad thing, but if it stops people dying because something dangerous is uncovered in time, then meh, if you've got nothing to hide, why would you mind?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 11:59, Reply)

Because I have got something to hide.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:01, Reply)

a secret dhal recipe?
or the fact that you're not actually the father of your second child?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:02, Reply)

We don't get hung up on paternity issues here in the commune
We're all part of one big family
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:03, Reply)

that's the nicest word for Coventry that i've ever heard

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:05, Reply)

Unfortunately the old "if you havent got something to hide" tosh
is beside the point, it is the invasion of privacy which is the sticking point. Bit like the ID cards thing a few years back. Essentially the whole of the Pro argument was that it would stop terrorism and if you have nothing to hide then why wouldn't you mind. The point of this rambling bollocks, is that it is the bark of all the current powers that doing XYZ will reduced terror. While at the same time the people creating the terror are generally the powers that be.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:11, Reply)

Well them and the makers of the 'Saw' films.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:15, Reply)

DUH OBVS...

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:16, Reply)

the undistinguished Canadian rock band?
I'm with you on potion 3.

Nelson, phil will become immortal and lead us into the future.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:02, Reply)

Nah number nine was the best one
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt7htnE1s4o
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:05, Reply)

Good old Phil, I for one will miss him dreadfully.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:06, Reply)

I bet price Phillip will die after saying something racist to the Doctor who's treating him.
Prism is real, that Verizon stuff they're talking about and the phone data is the sort of data i work with every day. Difference being that it's only call information that's coming into us rather than "everytihng"
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:03, Reply)

So mountain/molehill caused by the press, then.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:05, Reply)

Irony is that Credit Card Companies/Advertisers/Supermarkets probably know more about you as an individual than the Gov will ever.

(socynicalsohip, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:08, Reply)

I don't see how they could know anything about me.
Although I am aware that Nakers ensures that the stuff I want to buy is stocked at my local supermarket.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:10, Reply)

Do you pay in cash for everything?
Do you never use the same card more than once?
Have you never booked a flight with a credit card?
Ever completed APIS on said booking?
Delete your cookies after every website you visit?

Companies make a fortune aggregating these breadcrumbs we leave.
(socynicalsohip, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:15, Reply)

He lives in a Yurt and gets his food from the hedgrows.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:16, Reply)

This is a close enough summation, yes.
I don't own any credit cards or supermarket loyalty cards.
I do most of my internet browsing at work and tend to get targeted adverts related to my job.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Fair one.
Although supermarkets do track you via your debit card.
They get all the benefit of the loyalty scheme without giving you jack.
(socynicalsohip, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:57, Reply)

Ever been in an accident that wasn't your fault?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:16, Reply)

In terms of the telephony data.
It's not really yours or personal, it'll show things like:
Number dialed, Time, date, duration, routing, costtype (local/international ect), and outcome (success/fail/engaged/abbandoned etc) original number is available but we anonomyse it.

From that information and some decent analysis you can probably work out where someone works, who they call the most, how long they take to speak to people and maybe if you've got enough time how many different people use the phone line.

That information is useful for me/us because we can use it to check how people are using the service and forecast demand and then get staffing right over the next few months making it a better service, no idea how that information could ever help finding a terrorist.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:11, Reply)

You could probably do some network analysis to find a terrorist cell
if they were stupid enough to all call each other using the same number every time and you knew at least one of them was a terrorist.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:13, Reply)

AQ would learn alot by just watching the Wire

(socynicalsohip, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:18, Reply)

I learnt a lot by just watching The Wire, too.
I learnt that I think 'cult US cop dramas' are a tedious heap of shit.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:29, Reply)

Did they use words you didn't know?

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Sheet etc

(socynicalsohip, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:32, Reply)

So you watched it?

(socynicalsohip, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:32, Reply)

I was given a cast iron guarantee that it was brilliant
so I watched about three episodes and complained. I was then assured that I simply hadn't watched enough so I watched several more.

It was gash. My friend was telling me how amazingly realistic it was. My friend, the medical market researcher, married with two kids, who lives in suburban London and would be unlikely to find Baltimore on a fucking map, let alone comment on the accuracy of a drama set there.

Load of old toss.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:35, Reply)

cf the time I went to Cork, tried the Guinness - it was exactly the fucking same as in London.
Oh no, you have to have it in Dublin.

Then I got re-routed through Dublin - it was once again exactly the same.

tl:dr People talk shit
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:36, Reply)

No one cares what you think :((((

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:44, Reply)

I've got 10000 followers on Twitter ACTUALLY

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:48, Reply)

Alright Battered

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:51, Reply)

I'd mainly go with option 3 too
although it amazes me that people are so surprised by it.
The only issue is the potential for misuse, which goes back to McCarthy in the 50's if not before.
Land of the free, my arse. Land of the do as you wish long as you've got the money, more like.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:05, Reply)

it's like one of the songs from "book of mormon"

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:06, Reply)

You know who's got the right ideas about all this stuff?
That Michael Faraday fellow. He's the only one asking the tough questions.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:09, Reply)

Nothing would induce me to listen to him

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:29, Reply)

I expect it's real. It's all a matter of perspective, however.
Frankly, I feel rather sorry for any analyst that has to monitor my work emails which are a mixture of dull tech stuff and chatting to og about the hot air balloon festival she wants to go to.

I expect there's some program sifting the data for keywords that'll only get an analyst involved if it picks up a string of them.
( Kroney, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:10, Reply)

You're an 'analist'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:14, Reply)

sick burn, dude
I've had to go to hospital to get a skin graft.
( Kroney, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:21, Reply)

a bit of cold water wasn't good enough?

(Poppet some assembly required., Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:45, Reply)

I reckon if they're gonna spy on my Facebook, they could at least 'like' my posts about dogs and food and shit.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:41, Reply)

Ain't no 'igger like Gonz the J-'igger: "YAY Freedom and Democracy!"
The American government likes this
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:43, Reply)

Haha

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 13:46, Reply)

unfortunately I think it's going to be Nelly M first.
I'm not sure I like the idea of people checking up on all my shit but you know, the worst that'll happen is they yell at me for downloading books instead of buying them because I can't afford the several hundred dollars every semester.
(Poppet some assembly required., Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:44, Reply)

From what I gathered yesterday
it said that all this information was collated and passed through a series of filters looking for key words as it was the easiest way of doing it, Like Kroney mentions if they want to sift through the crap that goes through my in and out box so what.

They should both die at the same time and have a joint funeral
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Jun 2013, 12:56, Reply)