aren't you a bit old for that?
or are you going back to Uni?

/I've never filled them out. However, I can get to see and brutally judge about 5-600 a year as that's our usual number of first year applicants.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:42, 3 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

My suggestion:
Unless you are applying for medicine or vet med, it doesn't make a blind bit of fucking difference what you write. We will judge you on your academic peformance.

Unless you are, of course, applying for a course where academic ability isn't important in which case STOP FUCKING RUINING HIGHER EDUCATION FOR THE PROPER STUDENTS.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:46, Reply)

^upset^

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:47, Reply)

haha, I'm just trying to lure out the righteously indignant social scientists.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:53, Reply)

what about arts students?

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:59, Reply)

I don't think in any way that the subject of the course is relevant, being honest
at least within reason.

The problem is more that you can do a degree in Chemistry from the University of Stoke, say. Which clearly isn't even going to get you a job adding chlorine to swimming pools.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:07, Reply)

^ this ^

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:09, Reply)

Isn't the problem more to do with old prejudices and preferences about particular institutions?
Or, if there genuinely is a massive difference between degrees, the regulation of qualifications?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:10, Reply)

if the university requires 2 E's to get in
as opposed to 3 A's, there's a reason for that
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:12, Reply)

I mean a consistent standard for a degree.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:21, Reply)

There really isn't.
The use of external examiners is supposed to ensure this. But the more universities, the more shitty courses, the more shitty external examiners available. Obviously, employers in a specialist science/engineering field are unlikely to take your degree in any way seriously if the external examiner moderating it is Bobby Buttfuck from Padstow Tech, but then prospective students, probably understandably, rarely check that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 15:46, Reply)

There's no really clear regulation of qualifications
this is why all decent science and engineering degrees are accredited by certain industry bodies.

Unlike a University of Stoke science degree.

There may not even be a University of Stoke. I don't know. The point is valid.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:12, Reply)

It's Staffordshire University
They appear to be accredited by Institute of Biomedical Science and the British Psychological Society, amongst others.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:20, Reply)

Yeah what a dick eh readers

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:21, Reply)

That's still fuck all good if you do a Chemistry degree.
Now is it?

I never said all degrees from Stoke Poly were shit. Or, for that matter, that all degrees from a redbrick etc. were good. Just the point that "worthless degrees" are not decided purely by field, but by whether that particular course at that particular institution has any value or respect within said field.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 15:26, Reply)

jelly.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2135072
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 15:27, Reply)

*finger guns*

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 15:38, Reply)

And theatre choreographers?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:10, Reply)

Dances

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:16, Reply)

BUT THE TAX PAYER SHOULD PAY FOR MY DEGREE IN PHILSOPHICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDIES
EVEN THOUGH THE "UNIVERSITY" WAS FOUNDED IN 2003 AND I GOT STRAIGHT E'S IN MY A-LEVELS
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:53, Reply)

Yes, OK, this University was a public swimming baths until last year. What of it?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:54, Reply)

it's my right to have my education funded to tertiary level

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:55, Reply)

Education should be the preserve of the wealthy
Poor people would only waste it
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:57, Reply)

this doesn't just apply to education, dude

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:58, Reply)

The majority of students I've met seem ok financially, at least for going out, holidays, cars etc.
In their defence a few do work.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:59, Reply)

"higher education is a right not a priviledge"
no, you fucktards.

It's an intellectual priviledge. If you hadn't all been so desperate to get your Bachelors in surfing studies, there would be enough money to fully fund student courses for, say, 10-20% of the population. You can't have it both ways
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:59, Reply)

My leftie heart rails against this
However when I was at Uni (and I am sure you see a lot of this) there were so many people who were far to fucking stupid to be doing a degree. It was that universal push to have "education" that fucked up the benefits of apprentices etc.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:01, Reply)

It's not against any leftie principle to deny University education to those that won't benefit from it.
My leftie principles remembers that there used to be other routes for people to take, tech colleges, apprenticeships, and rails against the loss of those.

But that's not the point with University funding, at least directly.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:03, Reply)

I know...
It is set on Auto Rankle that's all,
logic says universal higher education is a flawed system. Hence me mentioning the decline in apprenticeships etc.
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:08, Reply)

it should be merit based, with a bias in favour of those at state schools
although frankly anyone could get an a at a-level, they're hardly difficult. depending on what you score, you get a contribution to your fees. otherwise, if you want to go, you have to pay.

meanwhile employers should look closely at what is actually valuable. clue: it's not going to be fucking Chaucer for an hour a week for 3 years.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:09, Reply)

*ahem*
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( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:03, Reply)

ZDING!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:04, Reply)

haha.
petard. hoisted. *kills self*
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:04, Reply)

I did what was effectively a creative writing and journalism degree.
So suck my balls, narc.
( Kroney, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 14:12, Reply)

Yeah, going back to uni.
It's a subject I've worked for 20 odd years in, on and off.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:52, Reply)

You can get a degree in Noncing now?

( Peej, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:53, Reply)

this did make me lol
sorry pookie
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:55, Reply)

Apparently so.
Bsa, Bachelor of Savillity.
(Pookie Bear had some very shiny foez, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 13:56, Reply)

I don't get whats wrong with doing what everyone else who lives in the real world has to do; get a job.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 29 Oct 2013, 15:24, Reply)