Yeah that's what I thought - the smaller ones use it better too.
Mrs V worked for one of the larger ones, and it was all CEO bonuses and exciting away trips for senior management.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:27, 1 reply, 11 years ago)

it's almost as if to be truly effective, a large charity has to attract and retain high performing staff with attractive salary and benefit packages

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:29, Reply)

You do talk shit sometimes.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:31, Reply)

no no Stunned, you're right, any charity runs far more effectively on a shoestring budget with simpleton staff, how silly of me to suggest otherwise.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:35, Reply)

Yes, of course.
Fucking simpleton.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:36, Reply)

sorry, so do you think that large charities should pay executive level salaries at less than market rates?
Because if staff at that level or with particular skills/experience are required, how else should they be attracted to and retained by the organisation?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:42, Reply)

The fact that it's a charity.
That should be their motivation.

Like when slebs do charity things for free. I'm not suggesting they shouldn't be paid, but they should be doing it for less than the market rate because they want to help the charity.

Of course this will never happen, as people are scum.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 13:08, Reply)

well of course
I can't see an additional rate taxpayer opting to take a 30k drop in salary just because it's a charity.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 13:09, Reply)

No, you can't. Neither can I.
Still - one can dream.

Who mentioned 30k?
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 13:11, Reply)

Dozer did, in the post above yours

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 13:13, Reply)

I plucked the figure from the ether.
So what reduction in salary do you think there should be in the charity sector then?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 13:21, Reply)

I dint actually mention a reduction in salary.
But rather that I was aware that larger charities operate far more like profit-making companies than what might be perceived as making money for charity.

CEO bonuses and expensive "research trips" abroad withstanding.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 13:29, Reply)

People's wages aren't directly proportional to either their intelligence or their ability.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:37, Reply)

yes, I know this.
Thanks for the info!
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:38, Reply)

So your inference that low wages equals simpleton staff, or that high wages equals skilled staff is a bit silly.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:41, Reply)

no, you are simplifying my point
Large charities are often comparable in size to large companies, in terms of turnover, money raised etc, so senior staff with the appropriate experience of such organisations need to be offered comparable benefits. Why would you expect to pay less than the going rate?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:45, Reply)

... because you're a chariddy.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:51, Reply)

oh dear

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:52, Reply)

I agree.
It's a great shame, but we're selfish creatures.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:58, Reply)

It would be interesting* to see the ratio between how much goes to the actual charitable acts vs wages as charities grow in size.

*Really dull
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:31, Reply)

The Charity Commission insist each organisation report on this every year.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:33, Reply)

In effect the large charities become lobbying groups for whatever.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:36, Reply)

If only there was some sort of, I dunno, government regulator or summat to ensure these things don't get abused.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:33, Reply)

I'm not saying they're abused.
I'd just be interested/bored to tears to see the above ratio.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:35, Reply)

^ upset

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:36, Reply)

See also:
How much money from Comic Relief etc. makes it to poor Tutt Tutt and her shitty well water, and how much stays with the African Government. Who make ours look like saints!
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:38, Reply)

That's another issue, yes.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 24 Jan 2014, 12:42, Reply)