IT types
I have a question:

I've got a Netgear RangeMax wireless router, and when I use some kind of torrent app on my computer the wireless connection drops out after maybe 5-10 minutes.

I've reduced the number of global connections to below 200 in an effort to stop it, but it hasn't done the trick. any suggestions?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 10:28, 20 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

A lot of torrent programs can overload a router
what torrent program are you using? Also, turning off port forwarding will help.
(The Oscillating Gibbon is eating curried squid, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 11:01, Reply)

I'm using utorrent
I'll look into port forwarding

edit: port forwarding isn't on

it doesn't seem to be that it is stopping the router working as my work laptop is still connected, just the wireless connection between home computer and router.

when it has happened, in the wireless network connections box in windows it is saying that the settings on the computer aren't right to connect to the network, or something along those lines
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 11:06, Reply)

I had a similar problem with borth utorrent and Azureus
turned off port forwarding, was fine.
(The Oscillating Gibbon is eating curried squid, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 11:09, Reply)

Is it..
...uploading a file at the same time?

Mine used to upload so fast that the internal network was jammed up. The netgear rangemax seems to give precedence to internet traffic.

If so, try throttling the upload to about 60-70% - this worked for me. I can't remember how to do that in uTorrent, but it was uTorrent I was using at the time.
(dchurch bah, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 11:15, Reply)

it is uploading
but not all that fast, about a quarter of the speed it is downloading

I've turned down the max rate for uploading some, but it usually isn't approaching that...

as I said, port forwarding is already off (in the router settings right?)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 11:22, Reply)

Vipros.
So, what you probably have is ADSL ( Asymmetric Digital subscriber line), this means that your download speed *is not* the same as your upload speed. The services usually come in bands like this :-

1mbit Down / 128kbit up (128KBs / 14KBs)

Mine is this:

20mbit Down / 768kbit up (2.6MB/s / 90KB/s)

The reason they tier it like this is becuase when downloading (using a regular TCP stream like bittorrent) there is a two way communication, the sender sends you a packet, you then send a packet back called an "ACK" (acknowledgement packet). This uses up data to, so for every 20mbit you are downloading at any given second you are uploading 768kbit*.

So this means that when your line is fully saturated downloading, uploading even a small amount of data can damage your bandwidth speed (download) or connection (in severe circumsances). So tell me what connection you pay for and ill let oyu know what you should limit your data connection to.

Cheers,

Axai

* figures may differ slightly depending on ISP / Tier / actual Download speed

edit: I dont know why i signed this like an email / letter??
( Axai is in Montréal, Canada O.o, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 11:46, Reply)

Axai
I've got 2Meg cable from virgin

the annoying thing is, I used to know all this stuff, but then I quit my fun job, went to uni and got a dull job and have forgotten it all...

the curious thing is that it is the wireless connection that is dropping out, rather than the internet connection as a whole.

for instance, it has just done it (after a longer period this time) and yet my laptop is still connected and working fine. just the desktop connection that is down
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:04, Reply)

Port forwarding...
...I'm not sure about disabling port-forwarding you know.

In uTorrent you need to forward ports 48979 - 48981 to the machine with uTorrent on it, else this will affect your download speeds.
(dchurch bah, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:14, Reply)

port forwarding is off
and when it works it is downloading fast as hell...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:15, Reply)

Vipros
Ok, so 2meg would be about 384kbit upload, meaning your max upload is 48KB/s.

Also, noted about it being the wireless dropping out. It could be a number of things. Have you tried adjusting your channel, incase something else is interfering in the area (try a lower channel like 6).

Try connecting the same PC using a cable, see if the dropouts still happen.

PC diagnostics are FUN.

;)
( Axai is in Montréal, Canada O.o, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:18, Reply)

Beware
of Virgin by the way - they are going to start monitoring heavy users soon.

(they cut me off 6mths ago thankfully and now I use a grown up ISP)

what model RangeMax is it?
(Kip, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:23, Reply)

I'll limit the up and down to values a bit lower than those you mention
and see what happens

I had some issues with the wireless before, so I'm already on a lower channel etc.

and the drop outs don't happen when it's plugged in with a cable as far as I can remember

I don't actually download much stuff these days TV series for the most part

it's a WPN824
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:25, Reply)

Just asked Mr Bin who knows about this stuff.
He says port forwarding on as someone said above and make sure you've got the latest software.

Don't ask me any questions though, I'm dumb as fuck when it comes to computers.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:45, Reply)

^
I agree - if only because some sites have wait times if you're not connectable.
(Kip, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 12:53, Reply)

I wish I could understand any of this ^^^
.
( girlinthehole, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 13:16, Reply)

re: Virgin Monitoring
They will be to a certain extent, but they are already anyway. They just don't pass on the information.

Right now i use VPN software on my main router that encrypts my traffic and sends it over to a server in amsterdam so Virgin (or any other UK isp) cannot tell what i am downloading.

If anyone wants in, gaz me.

vipros: Let me know how it goes. Make sure there are no devices interfering (like a microwave)
( Axai is in Montréal, Canada O.o, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 13:17, Reply)

will do
thanks for the help everyone
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 13:46, Reply)

Wondering...
Is this a new problem?

It's just that I'm still yet to come into contact with a computer that can actually torrent using a wireless connection, every one I've come into contact with just bombs out, the same way!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 14:04, Reply)

It's been doing it since I got the wireless running I think
although saying that, I can't remember if it was doing it on my old computer that didn't have vista on it...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 19 Aug 2008, 14:10, Reply)

@ Antichrist
I don't use torrents but Mr Bin does all the time and has never had this problem.

One thing I know he does though is that he ports forward. Also this is on a MacBook Pro. Might be different on a PC.
( Mrs Entity is in hiding., Tue 19 Aug 2008, 14:55, Reply)