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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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They're proper kicking off about the Islamics this week.
I don't get why any British person would travel over to fight volentery for ISIS [or whatever they're called this week]. I just don't get who would think "This is the correct thing to do". Don't get me wrong, I can see how someone would want a life of deborchery, and all other kinds of unsavoury lifestyles... but what does one hope to gain by joining ISIS?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:05, 104 replies, latest was 10 years ago)
I don't get why any British person would travel over to fight volentery for ISIS [or whatever they're called this week]. I just don't get who would think "This is the correct thing to do". Don't get me wrong, I can see how someone would want a life of deborchery, and all other kinds of unsavoury lifestyles... but what does one hope to gain by joining ISIS?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:05, 104 replies, latest was 10 years ago)
You'd be surprised how effective long term indoctrination can take hold.
You're obviously aware that advertising and propaganda are effective, so it's just a form of that.
Muslim men and boys, in a country like this that is becoming increasingly hostile to foreign immigrants, especially religious one, in some areas, brought up to believe in God are given an opportunity (as they see it) to get an identity . to make a difference.
It almost like emo kids, or those weirdos that wear tails, or people full of piercings. Just extreme. Really extreme.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:09, Reply)
You're obviously aware that advertising and propaganda are effective, so it's just a form of that.
Muslim men and boys, in a country like this that is becoming increasingly hostile to foreign immigrants, especially religious one, in some areas, brought up to believe in God are given an opportunity (as they see it) to get an identity . to make a difference.
It almost like emo kids, or those weirdos that wear tails, or people full of piercings. Just extreme. Really extreme.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:09, Reply)
I saw some guy wearing a tail the other day.
Fucking Hoxton pricks. I wanted to ask him what was wrong with him.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:15, Reply)
Fucking Hoxton pricks. I wanted to ask him what was wrong with him.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:15, Reply)
I see what you mean, I still think it's crazy, but I see what you're sayin'.
I would have thought though that someone in their family/peers/religion/etc would say " Hang on a minute, think about this...", and let's say they're being hate-preached too, I would have thought someone would cough up to the po-po
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:16, Reply)
I would have thought though that someone in their family/peers/religion/etc would say " Hang on a minute, think about this...", and let's say they're being hate-preached too, I would have thought someone would cough up to the po-po
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:16, Reply)
quite often they keep the darkest bits hidden
you often see families that have no idea quite how radical someone has become, until they have upped sticks and are shooting people
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:18, Reply)
you often see families that have no idea quite how radical someone has become, until they have upped sticks and are shooting people
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:18, Reply)
They are very insular communities.
Shit, fathers and brothers kill female members of their own family for "shaming" the family.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:19, Reply)
Shit, fathers and brothers kill female members of their own family for "shaming" the family.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:19, Reply)
I find that crazy too, even if I wouldn't dob in my own family, i'd dob in someone else's family.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:21, Reply)
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:21, Reply)
It is crazy, but it's not one thing that makes them go.
It's a whole culture that strips people of any real freedom of expression, yet tells them that if they're not good enough at following orders they'll be eternally punished. They live under a rule of thumb, and although some never become extreme, if your entire life your told by your closest family and peers you might not be good enough. And then the country your in tells you you're probably free leading rapist scum. And then a man your age offers you untold riches and dreams if you die fighting. Some will trot off.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:25, Reply)
It's a whole culture that strips people of any real freedom of expression, yet tells them that if they're not good enough at following orders they'll be eternally punished. They live under a rule of thumb, and although some never become extreme, if your entire life your told by your closest family and peers you might not be good enough. And then the country your in tells you you're probably free leading rapist scum. And then a man your age offers you untold riches and dreams if you die fighting. Some will trot off.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:25, Reply)
Don't forget that the US and UK have been drone bombing
communities they believe to be terrorist for years. Killing women and chhildren a la Israel.
Couple that with minority governments in both Irag and Syria and hey presto. A cause to fight for and as Winders says an identity.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:12, Reply)
communities they believe to be terrorist for years. Killing women and chhildren a la Israel.
Couple that with minority governments in both Irag and Syria and hey presto. A cause to fight for and as Winders says an identity.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:12, Reply)
Mine often asks to use my dictaphone
I say use your finger like everyone else
Hahahaha
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:35, Reply)
I say use your finger like everyone else
Hahahaha
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:35, Reply)
Tribalism, innit.
Hamas aren't getting outraged at the Muslims being killed by other Muslims. That's fine. It's Muslims being killed by outsiders they hate.
On the other face of the coin, the Israelis would be far more likely to attempt to mediate if it was anyone other than Palestinians.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:19, Reply)
Hamas aren't getting outraged at the Muslims being killed by other Muslims. That's fine. It's Muslims being killed by outsiders they hate.
On the other face of the coin, the Israelis would be far more likely to attempt to mediate if it was anyone other than Palestinians.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:19, Reply)
I saw some French fighters have gone over to join the "pro-Russian rebels" in Ukraine.
I assume they're some sort of covert strategy to counter-balance the effectiveness of the Russians.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:14, Reply)
I assume they're some sort of covert strategy to counter-balance the effectiveness of the Russians.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:14, Reply)
My grandpere used to work with le Ministre des Affaires étrangères et du Développement international
Still have a few contacts, you know? *taps nose*
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:21, Reply)
Still have a few contacts, you know? *taps nose*
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:21, Reply)
I see it quite clearly
You get told about Assad killing children and using chemical weapons, and want to do something about it. Unlike most emotive conflicts in far away places, this one has a rebel army that is open to outsiders and foreigners joining the fight so long as they are muslims.
Once you are out there feeling like a proper big man with an AK47 in your hands, you start getting into the madness and become more and more mental.
Well that's what happened to me anyhow.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:17, Reply)
You get told about Assad killing children and using chemical weapons, and want to do something about it. Unlike most emotive conflicts in far away places, this one has a rebel army that is open to outsiders and foreigners joining the fight so long as they are muslims.
Once you are out there feeling like a proper big man with an AK47 in your hands, you start getting into the madness and become more and more mental.
Well that's what happened to me anyhow.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:17, Reply)
I should really stop watching these beheading videos, they just make me feel awful.
A bit like reading rachelswipes posts.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:24, Reply)
A bit like reading rachelswipes posts.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:24, Reply)
But I would see the beheadings, stonnings, rapings, etcs and think " Hold up a minute here..... something ain't right."
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:18, Reply)
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:18, Reply)
Well yeah, but thats only western propaganda
they are really fighting to protect the people of Syria from Assad.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:20, Reply)
they are really fighting to protect the people of Syria from Assad.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:20, Reply)
Remember not that long ago (a few months really)
our government and the US were about to ally with these people and give them weapons.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:21, Reply)
our government and the US were about to ally with these people and give them weapons.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:21, Reply)
No they weren't
That's precisely why they didn't get involved in Syria.
Syrian government - bad m'kay
Syrian rebels - some good, some bad
Makes it fucking tricky to help anyone without just making it all worse.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:07, Reply)
That's precisely why they didn't get involved in Syria.
Syrian government - bad m'kay
Syrian rebels - some good, some bad
Makes it fucking tricky to help anyone without just making it all worse.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:07, Reply)
Much as I'd love to stay and participate in this well lol thread, I have to go home now :'('''''''''
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:20, Reply)
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:20, Reply)
this is all a bit po faced
Can we not just talk about Sian Williams's taste in shoes?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:20, Reply)
Can we not just talk about Sian Williams's taste in shoes?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:20, Reply)
The papers describe them as Radical Extremists
and all teenagers are addicted to things that are Radical! and Extreme!
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:55, Reply)
and all teenagers are addicted to things that are Radical! and Extreme!
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:55, Reply)
in the 80's anyway.
Now it's all sick and twisted.
which still applies.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:56, Reply)
Now it's all sick and twisted.
which still applies.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 15:56, Reply)
I'd be arrested these days. I do know that "sick" and "Twisted" are good things now though.
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:13, Reply)
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:13, Reply)
I think you get a badge which lets you free into
some tourist attractions and a certificate of participation. Might get on TV, too
speaking of which, I'm on the radio on Monday
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:06, Reply)
some tourist attractions and a certificate of participation. Might get on TV, too
speaking of which, I'm on the radio on Monday
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:06, Reply)
i'll put it on facebook when I've got details
but it's for an hour and I get to pick the music, which will be fun. I'm the emergency stand in for a real life award winning author
(BTW it's not a massive radio station, I'm just excited by how daft it is for me to be interviewed as a celebrity already)
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:16, Reply)
but it's for an hour and I get to pick the music, which will be fun. I'm the emergency stand in for a real life award winning author
(BTW it's not a massive radio station, I'm just excited by how daft it is for me to be interviewed as a celebrity already)
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:16, Reply)
I dont do facebook and would still like to mock you
Is there any other way this could be promoted online?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:20, Reply)
Is there any other way this could be promoted online?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 16:20, Reply)
They're proper kicking off about the iPhone 6 this week.
I don't get why any British person would buy one voluntarily from Apple [or whatever they're called this week]. I just don't get who would think "This is the correct thing to do". Don't get me wrong, I can see how someone would want a life full of fashion tech, and all other kinds of throwaway gadgets... but what does one hope to gain by buying an iPhone 6?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 17:17, Reply)
I don't get why any British person would buy one voluntarily from Apple [or whatever they're called this week]. I just don't get who would think "This is the correct thing to do". Don't get me wrong, I can see how someone would want a life full of fashion tech, and all other kinds of throwaway gadgets... but what does one hope to gain by buying an iPhone 6?
( , Fri 29 Aug 2014, 17:17, Reply)
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