I think this is a damn good idea.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8104062.stm

Crotchfruit owners should also be banned from smoking in their own gaffe. Discuss.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:17, 27 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

My dad gave up
when I was born, hes never been fitter.

I've never started, and don't wish to, and I put that down to not having it around me constantly.
(Ethelred is watching cheese grow, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:19, Reply)

What about personal liberties though?

(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:20, Reply)

You're kidding, right?
Not that I have a problem with the idea in general, just trying to enforce it as a law.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:21, Reply)

I think I'll second that
I can appreciate the principle. Trying to enforce it will be even more a shambles than the half-hearted attempt to stop assorted cunts having mobile phone conversations whilst driving.

You know what I'd be more inclined to ban? I've seen families (alright, some obese harridan and her young offspring) walking around with the mother listening to her ipod, and therefore paying no attention to the spawn swirling around her. And we wonder why these kids grow up with attention-related disorders...
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:51, Reply)

I don't see the problem
if the window's open.
(oneinthepink is at your cervix m'lady, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:22, Reply)

shut up
it's my kid if I want her to die from second hand smoke I won't have to worry about seeing it because by the time it affects her I'll have already died my own horrendous death
gosh
mind your own business you cunt
get off my land, etc
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:24, Reply)

Gaff in this context is not spelt 'gaffe'
- which ironically is what you've just made, spelling-wise.

If I was the kind of 'txt' person I loathe, I would insert this ;O) to infer that I am merely ribbing you in a light-hearted way.

Unfortunately I'm not.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:26, Reply)

LOLZ
No offence, great times had by all, just forum banter.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:49, Reply)

Yeah',
But I think the UK airports should have outside smoking sections, that are post-check in.

If you're on a 6 hour flight, that's like 9 hours without smoking.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:27, Reply)

+1 for that.
When you're waiting at the bar a drink's too wet without one.
(oneinthepink is at your cervix m'lady, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:28, Reply)

I no longer smoke
but I completely agree. Cigarettes aren't banned, so there should be places where it's safe to smoke without bothering anyone else. They're addictive. People get withdrawal symptoms. Ban them, or have the decency to let people smoke them somewhere.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:31, Reply)

ah I'm so glad we're still allowed to smoke in bars here

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:32, Reply)

where's that then?

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:45, Reply)

Virginia

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:46, Reply)

How apt!
that's baccy county isn't it!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:49, Reply)

something like that
yeah, thats right,
to all those smokers out there

you're welcome
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 14:13, Reply)

My father lives in Williamsburg
I went into a (the?) pub there and a very drunk chap pulled out his smokes and went to light one - on autopilot, I very nearly grabbed it out of his hand with a 'Mate! You can't do that inside any more!' until I realised that, yes, you blatantly could.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 15:41, Reply)

Shame
Not quite the same as smoking around children.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:32, Reply)

Yup, I agree with that, if I'm around kids, in a confined space, I don't smoke.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:34, Reply)

Let the kids go Gonz
before it's too late.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:55, Reply)

pfft

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 14:08, Reply)

It'd be too hard to enforce, methinks
although both my parents smoked in the car when I was younger, and on long journeys I would occasionally throw up on purpose so they'd open the fucking windows.
They don't do it any more.
(berk, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:47, Reply)

What would be even better would be...
...to monitor whatever the population does and then charge people with thought crime if they even think about doing anything the government doesn't want them to do. We can make it a tax, I mean fixed penalty notice to act as a deterrent.

People committing thought crimes are adversely affecting child poverty and global warming, therefore should be taxed - whoops - fixed penaltied accordingly.

Cunts.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:51, Reply)

Well
the baby boomer generation born in the 1940s and 50s grew up at a time when the majority smoked, and people smoked everywhere - home, work, pub, cinema, car etc. So as kids they would have been exposed to much more smoke than nowadays - even teachers smoked in the classroom back then.

I don't see that generation all dying of passive smoking-related illnesses. Ditto they don't have the levels of asthma that have appeared over the last 20 years in children.

Smoking might be / is vile, smelly, irritating and fatal to the smoker.

However passive smoking is being used as a method of banning smoking; the reality is that it is unpleasant for others, but not fatal, and the science behind the message "passive smoking kills" remains unproven.
( I_Was_Mordred, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 13:57, Reply)

^^^THIS^^^
The passive smoking kills idea is a very flimsy one, not being a science bod I cant remember the exact figures but its something like:

If you stand over a Barbeque for 30 minutes you will inhale more carcinogens, then if you were locked in a room with passive smoke for a month... Or something similar...

While smoking may be unpleasant to the non wheezers it isnt a reason to ban it...
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 14:39, Reply)

For goodness sake!!
Who on earth allows their child to smoke while they're driving the car?

Bloody hell, it's bad enough putting all the cushions on the seat so the little bugger can see over the steering wheel! And don't get me started on how hard it is for them to reach the pedals.

/coat
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 14:06, Reply)

Here's an idea
Why don't we just ban children from being in cars? That way it would solve the problem, next we could ban children, and then finally ban adults as well.

Who do these people think they are!
(Herr Doktor Lemminge Is bored, so cheer me up!, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 14:13, Reply)