MONTY!
THE NEW QOTW NEEDS YOU URGENTLY!
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 4 Feb 2010, 12:41, 33 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

*drops to knees* YESSSSSSS!!!
I think I may open my account by reposting last week's Bowie-rage, just whilst I warm up.....
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 12:53, Reply)

*hides in bunker*

( girlinthehole, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 12:54, Reply)

Sorry!
I got there first!

Still, you can never mock the White Duke enough, can you?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 12:56, Reply)

No, you cannot.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 12:56, Reply)

Your sig
suits that answer perfectly sir

EDIT: Mine doesn't
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 12:57, Reply)

I can see a lot of arguing this week
Because, to be honest, I quite like Michael McIntyre, his appearance on Top Gear had me in stitches.

Also, while I can understand why others hate him, I fucking love Jeremy Clarkson, the man is genius.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:00, Reply)

Aaaarggghhh Clarkson!
*throws water cooler through window*
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:03, Reply)

mcintyre was good when he first arrived
now he is shit

clarkson is fucking awesome
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:05, Reply)

Yes, Clarkson has the balls to say what people can't think would be thinking if they could.

( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:07, Reply)

I find his belligerence and general incompetance amusing
I don't particularly agree with a lot of what he says, but he does interesting things in entertaining ways
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:12, Reply)

His books are fucking dire though.

( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:30, Reply)

I thought the same
Then I saw his thing on Top Gear, where he had Clarkson in tears. Was absolutely superb
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:07, Reply)

"Petrol suitcase".
I can take him or leave him, but that appearance on Top Gear was pretty good.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:21, Reply)

I feel a bit sorry for Macintyre
Given you can tell the clique bunch on Mock the Week don't like him at all. Seems a harmless enough guy. Reasonably watchable as well.
( whenanimalsattackhumans clad in global hypercolour, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:33, Reply)

Ooooooh! CONTROVERSY!
The /all function has gone!

According to the note left people were using it to rig the vote.


Naughty b3tans.
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:09, Reply)

It was a frightening and yet momentous day
Rob talked to us on /OT and everything.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:13, Reply)

I missed all of that
typical.
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:51, Reply)

I'm too laid back to hate people I've never met.
Some celebrities I dislike and some I pity but I can't really think of any I hate.
( girlinthehole, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:12, Reply)

Katie Price
She's a fucking bitch, I hope she has all her children taken away and she ends up with a needle in her arm in a ditch.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:30, Reply)

She's one of the ones I pity.
She must be the only person I know who has less self-esteem than I have.
( girlinthehole, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:49, Reply)

I have to get back to work in a minute
but fortunately I have tomorrow off so I can compose a lengthy response about Bono
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:13, Reply)

Good lad.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 13:34, Reply)

I having real problems over on QOTW with a fellow called 'A Vagabond'
who is talking the most frightful bollocks:

www.b3ta.com/questions/famebacklash/post630791

It's actually giving me a headache.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 14:31, Reply)

*hands over paracetamol*
Walk away Monty. It's not worth it.
( girlinthehole, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 14:42, Reply)

*hand over angel dust*
Punch the fucker Monty!
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 14:51, Reply)

I can sort of understand his argument
but when applied to the post it's not really valid.

Your argument isn't against music as a commercial venture as such, more the 'selling out' and constant changing of style to remain cool at the cost of artistic integrity.
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 14:53, Reply)

Quite so.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 15:01, Reply)

and that is a debate in itself
Music does need to change, and to an extent any and all musicians/ bands need to evolve and experiment but NOT at the cost of artistic integrity as with Mr Bowie.

The most recent example I can think of is 'The Editors'. They may not be everyones cup of tea but after 2 very good (if similar sounding) albums they churn out 'In this light' which is a huge change in direction and yet has the 'feel' of their earlier stuff and is, in my opinion, their finest work so far. They've changed the sound but not the music if that makes sense.

Know what I mean?
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 15:12, Reply)

Yes.
Good call - that is a very interesting album.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 15:30, Reply)

develop, yes,
be a fashion-chasing whore, no.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 16:03, Reply)

What's your take on 'The Clash'?
Although I quite like them, I would consider them to be a band of the fashion-chasing whore variety
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 16:07, Reply)

As in...
...earnest socialists jump on bandwagons and chase the almighty dollar with major label help?
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 16:11, Reply)

There is that
and also the continual changing styles. Although they produced some brilliant stuff I can't help but think they were confused as to what genre they were aiming for. Maybe that was their intention - not to be defined and labelled as a punk/ska/reggae/rock band but I always feel a little confused. Sandinista is a prime example of this.

However, using a major label to increase awareness of ones music is not always a bad thing yet in many cases it does tend to clash with a musicians/band own ethos and cause friction. The case that springs to minds immediately is New Model Armys flirtation with EMI. They never (and I may be biased here as I'm a massive NMA fan) compromised their artistic integrity. EMI saw some brief success yet the level of success the label never fully materialised as the band were not willing to conform.

Chumbawamba are another prime example. They used to be good. Again, I was quite a fan. They release one 'major' single, get signed to a major label and fast become shit and they sell all their values and morals for a quick buck.

Would Nirvana have been so big if they stuck with Sub-Pop and not signed with Geffen? Again, I don't think the relationship betwen band and label would have lasted long. Geffen want the money, Nirvana wanted the creative freedom and exposure. The two conflict.

*end of waffle*
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Thu 4 Feb 2010, 16:48, Reply)