Having sex on you when you were passed out?
I'm not sure if I understand it. Sounds like rape.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:43, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

well that's the thing, I don't think he would have done that
which makes me think that I was just really drunk and probably agreed to it. I honestly can't remember. He always used to try it on with me when I was drunk, but I was never drunk enough. I don't think he would have forced himself on me as such with me saying no, or being unconscious, so that makes me think that I just gave in. I don't remember anything though so I'll just call it lesson learned!
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:47, Reply)

still sounds like rape to me

(PsychoChomp, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:49, Reply)

and you'd know

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:49, Reply)

And you'd know.

EDIT - Shit.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:51, Reply)

haha

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:55, Reply)

She doesn't know if she said yes, and we don't know if he was so drunk that her drunken yes just seemed like a sane yes
So whilst he's definitely a cunt, Kitty's saying he might NOT be a rapist.
She's giving him the benefit of the doubt instead of going "Oh he MUST have raped me!!!" like some mean people do, to cover their shame. This causes a bad attitude towards actual rape victims.
Kitty's being well fair here but possibly too hard on herself. Guess she'll never know.
Sorry such a vile thing happened, Kitzo.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:52, Reply)

^^This

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:54, Reply)

It's ok, it was years ago so I'm over it now.
You're right though Roota, I honestly don't think of him as A Rapist, even though I've known him to take the advantage when he can. It just wasn't worth it for what happened and I hate these girls who sleep with someone when they're drunk and then claim they were spiked and raped and blah blah blah, I think it's kind of insulting to people who are genuinely raped and it dilutes the seriousness of it. It's women crying false rape that make people question real rape and then it's harder to convict proper scum bags. This guy was just a horny loser who didn't care if I found him disgusting or not.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:55, Reply)

^This
Been in a similar situation.
Grey area. Not worth further hassle and humiliation.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:57, Reply)

yeah half of me didn't want to tell anyone
that he'd had his naked penis anywhere near me. Ick.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:03, Reply)

I suppose so,
but think how much shit it would have caused between me and my friends if I'd tried to pursue it. It probably wouldn't have got anywhere because by my own admission I don't remember anything and he would just claim that we were both drunk and it was consensual. Plus my friends said we went home from the club together (which I also don't remember) and that I didn't seem that drunk to them, so maybe he thought the same.

Bleurgh. Makes me feel queasy thinking about it, he's so revolting.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:52, Reply)

It's not worth bringing it up to make a point
so lets talk about monty, he was wearing a sleevless top to the pub, he looked like the "Rock one" of an early 90s boy band.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:55, Reply)

monty
sleeveless top

hahahahahaha
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:55, Reply)

I asked him for a gun show. He refused.
It was sad times.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:00, Reply)

poor show
I'd expect better from him. although my mental image of monty is not one of someone who could be expected to put on a respectable gun show anyway.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:02, Reply)

Musket show?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:07, Reply)

that reminded me of


O soldier, soldier, won't you marry me
With your musket fife and drum?
O no sweet maid I cannot marry you
For I have no coat to put on.
So up she went to her grandfather's chest
And she got him a coat of the very, very best
And the soldier put it on.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:10, Reply)

And fucked her over his drum

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:11, Reply)

Oh ya little fucker ye

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:12, Reply)

Labs..ruining kids' nursery rhymes since 2010

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:13, Reply)

Eye thang yew

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:22, Reply)

He looked cool and well you know it

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:56, Reply)

Is there a photo of this?
Was he not wearing an AC/DC tshirt, which is how I've always pictured him.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:57, Reply)

monty is fabulous.
i remember inspecting his septum
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:20, Reply)

I've never told anyone apart from my father
And I don't want to discuss it here, but once I took a similar decision, and I don't regret it. Sometimes, when you're not sure about what's going on, it's better to let it run and avoid making it more complicated.

Probably, you'd have got half of the world saying it was your fault, and the other half saying it was his, and all got a bad mess. Like this, it's just a bad night of not being sure of what happened.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:57, Reply)

I was a bit of a prick tease back then as well so a part of me thinks it was probably a bit my fault
I've learned since then that sex seems to be way more important to blokes than it does women, so women shouldn't hint that they're going to offer it if they're not really. I'm not justifying his actions but I'm not entirely blameless.

Also, he was one of a large group of friends so it would have caused no end of shit and probably caused fights in the group.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:00, Reply)

back then?

(PsychoChomp, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:07, Reply)

haha
I'm a one man woman now, I only tease Wiggy's prick.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:12, Reply)

that really does not sound good
he sounds like scum

Edit: if no matter how drunk you'd been before you'd still said no, I can't imagine you'd have changed your mind. Which means either you said no, or you were unconscious (and he'd have known already you had no intention of ever sleeping with him) so yes a creepy creepy person
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:49, Reply)

FFS!
He's a bastard if he did that, waiting for you to be so drunk that you couldn't say no.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:51, Reply)

That's fucking horrible.
I'd have him killed.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:52, Reply)

hopefully I gave him aids.

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:53, Reply)

you almost certainly gave him face-aids
I've seen pics of you...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:54, Reply)

That was before my weight loss as well,
so he humped a whale.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:57, Reply)

I now have "Hobo Humping Slobo Babe" stuck in my head
I had forgotten about that until now.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:58, Reply)

OH MY GOD
I just remembered me and dj were drunkenly discussing music on Saturday and I said "I do hope Lab isn't the dj in the Krazyhouse who hadn't heard of Hobo Humping Slobo Babe that time. I'd be so let down" and he said "If he didn't have a mohican it wasn't him" and I said "Dunno, I was drunk, shocked and angry"
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:00, Reply)

Haha!
I never DJd the Kray, they were right arseholes about it when asked as well. I also didn't have a mo' when in Liverpool, I had bright blue dreads.
Very random though!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:02, Reply)

I thought you'd done a bit there
Did you do the Mardi though?

And I'm so glad it wasn't you. Oh, but they knew Limp Fucking Biskit didn't they eh!!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:04, Reply)

Nope, I only did my own cybergoth/industrial/powernoise night called Sanctuary
And played a little at a goth night in Manc, plus a one-off night there that I forget the name of, but it was massive.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:05, Reply)

Fair dooz
I thought you'd dabbled in the venues here.
And DJ'd as well, boom boom!!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:06, Reply)

Eyyyy ;)
We also pissed off the folk who run the Kray by putting up flyers for Sanctuary over town. Apparently they don't like competition, even though 90% of our crowd never went to the Kray on a Friday anyway.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:08, Reply)

nothing wrong with being an ex-fatty
however, being a fat bloke meant that I have no real answers to the question posed in the OP. I only really got together with people who had got to know how awesome I am, rather than going on appearance.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 11:58, Reply)

I was kidding, I've always been this thin
*smugs*
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:02, Reply)

LIES
I've seen the pic, and frankly, it's fucking vile.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:03, Reply)

haha
I might ask the guy who photoshopped me to do all my holiday snaps before I put them on facebook. That'll give you lot something to wank over.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:09, Reply)

That's libel
I am outraged that you imply that I, upon friending a girl, go hunting for the bikini pics.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:12, Reply)

can you honestly deny
that you haven't seen my bikini pics from my holiday in Shagaluf?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:29, Reply)

I admit I've scanned through most of your pics

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:34, Reply)

I knew it!
It's a shame I'm so unphotogenic, I look way less retarded in real life, honest.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:49, Reply)

Sure
And I bet you've gone through my pics looking for bikini shots. perve.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:54, Reply)

that's hurtful
you've opened me up to spill my insecurities and then you throw it back in my face.

you are worse than hitler with aids
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:05, Reply)

I'm sorry
You're beautiful now though and that's all that matters.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:09, Reply)

now though and that's all that matters. no matter what they say. Words can't bring you down.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:13, Reply)

If I ever meet Veepro
I'm going to sing that to him, whilst walking slowly towards him and making wild gesticulations about how powerful the song is. As I reach him, he'll start sobbing, we'll embrace, I'll pat him on the back as he sobs his pain away and it'll all be fine.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:15, Reply)

this is definitely going to happen

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:16, Reply)

I can't sing to be honest
so I've fallen at the first hurdle. I'll probably just high five you and then you can teach me how to surf.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:19, Reply)

that'll work too
I'm all about the high fives
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:20, Reply)

Talking of surfing
I'm up for giving it a go. What beaches do you go to, and do any do kit hire?
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:26, Reply)

I tend to go to Saunton and Woolacombe
because I'm a longboarder. they are also massive and you can get away from the cunts.

you can hire stuff at or near both. most decent beaches have hire places nearby
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:28, Reply)

Did you have an instructor when you first started out
or did you just give it a bash and see what happened?
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:30, Reply)

I used to bodyboard
could do a load of tricks and stuff, but a few of my mates surfed properly (they are the ones who are awesome now)

I didn't go for ages while I was at uni and started again when I started working, cos most of my office surf. had a shit time bodyboarding one day, and that coupled with my mate barry looking cool on his longboard made me take surfing up properly.

Even being shit at surfing is better than being good at bodyboarding.

I knew the principles of it, and knew about how waves worked and stuff, so just got into it. Lessons are only worthwhile if you can't go really regularly. It's all about catching as many waves as possible to learn how to do it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:34, Reply)

Thanks
I think I'll wait until I'm somewhere warm and beautiful, the likelihood of me catching decent waves in Manchester are slim.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:39, Reply)

Noted, thanks!
Was thinking of a weekend camping down in Devon with the missus.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:30, Reply)

let me know when and I'll come and meet you

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:31, Reply)

Awesome!
It's merely a pleasant thought at the mo, nothing planned, but will let you know.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:33, Reply)

"...I'm a longboarder"
That's some neat returning to the thread topic, there.
(Cave Duck, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 12:33, Reply)