Teachers
Bunch self righteous moaning bastards. And I mean all of them, no exceptions. Constantly going on about having to do marking up to 8 or 9 o'clock at night when they get a quarter of the year off. Moaning at a 5% pay increase when the majority of the rest of working world are not entitled to an automatic pay rise. Finishing University and walking into 25k jobs while the majority of graduates struggle to get 20k. Moaning about how the job has changed, how it's now all about hitting targets and not the teaching. Newsflash: Every job is about hitting targets, surely the grading system for qualifications is nothing more than a series of targets and that's how you got yourself the job you hate in the first place. The majority of Teachers I know are thick as hell and simply went into Teaching because it was a safe career and they loved being institutionalised.

I once had an overweight PE teacher tell me how her job was the hardest job in the world and that she doubted anyone else could ever do it as there was a level of organisation required unparalleled in any other career. A PE teacher? Isn't that like being a teacher without the fucking marking? Due to her sheer girth she clearly was not doing star jumps till 9 o'clock in the evening.

In short, because you chose a career that operates outside of the rest of the Capitalist world you have waived your right to moan to me about pay, working hours, job progression and pressure. You have 4 months a year to get over all that crap whilst I'm in work.
( The only Dave is pushing things forward, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:11, 23 replies)

They should strike during the summer holidays
When they've got all that marking to do. That would show us.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:13, closed)

I was in a relationship with a teacher
She was ALWAYS home before me, sunbathed and relaxed during EVERY half term or other holiday, did her marking whilst watching telly drinking wine and moaned CONSTANTLY about how hard her job was etc etc etc.

I found it quite insulting that at no point did she consider that my job might be remotely as tiring, stressful or difficult as hers. Or that I might understand what it is to be stressed or tired.

EDIT: And her teacher freinds were all the same. Weirdly cold towards non-teachers.

I finally ended it when she tried to punch me in the face... but that's a whole other story.
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:23, closed)

A good point made well.....
....they only hang around with other Teachers, a bit like Doctors but at least Doctors are intelligent enough to realise they are wrong uns.
( The only Dave is pushing things forward, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:30, closed)

or vampires
....
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Thu 27 May 2010, 18:28, closed)

I went to parents evening yesterday
The boy was complaining that his ICT teacher was an absolute bitch with an attitude problem of epic proportions. I didn't believe him until I met her yesterday, she started to rain down a torrent of abuse on the boy saying that he was unmotivated and disruptive. She was damn near shouting at him and trying to embarrass him infront of his parents, so I cut her down mid rant - told her to be quiet because I was completely aware of the situation and had offered him guidance on how to deal with difficult characters. On then went on to ask her how she was going to change the situation for the better..... The head of year had to intervene as my questions became more diffulct to answer and the teacher in question couldn't look me or the boy in the eye. I'm now a hero in the boys eyes, and this teacher will never pick on him or single him out in future.
(TwinkleFuckingToes Has a ingrown toe nail, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:38, closed)

Woo!
Good on you!
(friedel, Fri 28 May 2010, 12:34, closed)

My father was a teacher...
... and worked damned hard, including through most of the summer "holiday".

However, there are certain benefits which I think are easily overlooked.... for example, our daughter is not the most socially confident and we were discussing at parent's evening how to help. Teacher's suggestion was to have other kids round to tea, but then added:

"of course I understand that with both parents working it is difficult, but I always managed when my kids were this age".

It was diffcult not to say to that "But that's because you finish work at 3:30 the same time that schoolkids do. Those of us in the real world work to 6:30 and then have an hour's commute after. I'm lucky to be home by bedtime, how exactly do I host a teaparty?
( Ugi , it's a game of give and cake, Thu 27 May 2010, 16:49, closed)

I was a primary teacher.
I was doing 90 hours a week and moaned all the time. Solution? Different job. I work in the care sector now - a bit less money but technically have over doubled my hourly rate :-)
( Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Thu 27 May 2010, 19:59, closed)

Exactly......
...if you don't like the shit, get out of the silo.
( The only Dave is pushing things forward, Thu 27 May 2010, 21:41, closed)

I enjoyed reading your post about teachers
The tone and vitriol of this and your other posts about managers and recruitment consultants certainly indicate your dislikes. You hate the people who put you in your job, you hate the people who manage you in your job and you hate the people who have a job you deem to have better conditions, benefits and perks.

I am a teacher. I start at 9. I finish at 3. I get a 15 minute break and a 50 minute lunch. Despite what you say about moaning teachers in your post I have fantastic career prospects. The type of school I work in means I have very little pressure and next year I get a £5k pay jump. Of course you hate us.

PS, you mentioned how we walk out of Uni and into a £25k job. Well, if you pro rata it out over the year and take into account holidays it is nearer £32k ;-)

As for my most hated profession, I would have to say sales. As a thick, self righteous moaning bastard teacher I cant turn down the cheeky chappy types who attempt to sell me whatever tat their company unleashes on the world. Simply because, like a tu’penny ha’penny whore, I just cant say no.
(OTT, Thu 27 May 2010, 21:41, closed)

Clearly
you didn't enjoy the vitriol....

Smugness is now added to my list of reasons to dislike teachers.
Having lived with one for two years and been to many teachers social events I feel my negative opinions are justified based on my experience.

You must be one of the wily ones that doesn't whine and moan. Not to be trusted.
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Thu 27 May 2010, 22:10, closed)

click
nice post. To each their own. I know some really dispicable teachers. I also know despicable software engineers and despicable call centre workers. All joking aside i am fairly sure i am one of the few semi sane teachers in the uk. Even before going into teaching a lot of them struck me as a bit odd. I am married to a teacher so i encountered a fair few of them.

It is a simple quality of life issue. I used to work in ict sales and was always chasing the money. The last place i worked, a company that sounded like hell, the top earner for the year brought in just over £105k. I salivated at the thought of something comparable being in store for me. But then i realised 2 things.

1. That guy was in the office 12-14 hours a day, 6 days a week and probably spent half his earnings on tums and pepto.

2. My newborn son was more important.

Queue voluntary unemployment, another £5k in student loans and going from a successful career to being a whipping boy on placement for one of the old school nutjob types to whom i assume most of the above posts refer to.

I am now in a rewarding job in a school for the physically and mentally impaired. I get to go to the park with my son on weeknights and i am home in time to give my baby daughter her last two feeds.

I dont miss the cut and chase of sales.

Is it just me or does this qotw promote sweeping generalisations based on a persons limited exposure to people in a certain profession. What fun. Next week, your most hated ethnicity.

On the other hand, i fucking hate lawyers.
(OTT, Thu 27 May 2010, 22:31, closed)

of course
being a teacher, you'd know that in this context, it's "Cue" not "Queue". The former denotes triggers, the latter is a line of waiting people.

And speaking of people; People, please don't feed the trolls.
(The Incredible Sulk Finally remembered his password on, Fri 28 May 2010, 0:35, closed)

yawn
you failed to mention that the first sentence of my post wasnt capitalised. If you are going to be a pedantic grammar nazi you should really look before you leap judging from your capitalisation

I actually liked thefinch's post, hence the click. Maybe that is what makes me a troll. Or may'be its' my punc;tuation and speling. Or maybe because i offered my opinion on this week's question which i feel is a bit of a downer in comparison to last week.

Whatever it is, i am jacking teaching and taking up acting. I am sure there is a part for someone of my description in the new hobbit movie.
(OTT, Fri 28 May 2010, 9:31, closed)

If Grammar Nazi was a profession....
I would hate them most of all. We all have office software, when writing a letter or document we will make sure the grammar and spelling are correct. This is a bulletin board, get over yourself trying to correct the whole world just because it doesn't read properly.

Grammar Nazis can shove their extra apostrophe up their arse for nothing and fuck off whilst they are doing it.
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Fri 28 May 2010, 15:15, closed)

Hahaha
Genius
(OTT, Fri 28 May 2010, 20:33, closed)

I am plagiarising Bruce Robinson
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rydr6WYOPYw&NR=1

3 minutes in if you haven't seen it before...
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Fri 28 May 2010, 21:45, closed)

I'm sorry
I didn't mean to be nasty.

If it helps, I was tired, had a bit of a cold, and was slightly tipsy; i certainly failed my own rules of thinking before posting.

I'm tempted to delete the offending post, as a courtesy; but I've been pulled up for doing that before.
(The Incredible Sulk Finally remembered his password on, Sun 30 May 2010, 2:10, closed)

I wish more of them
were like you.

I must also admit that this one teacher really queered the pitch for everyone else in my eyes. Frankly she was a bully.
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Fri 28 May 2010, 9:09, closed)

Close, very close.
1. I hate recruitment consultants because I started in a position as one around 10 years ago, with a highly respected firm, and managed to stick it out for a month before needing to cleanse my soul. I felt dirty with ever deal I closed. My Mrs also used to work as a senior admin for another firm and she used to tell me that nothing has changed. Everyone I have ever known who I have ever known who has worked in recruitment has been morally flexible. I myself have never been placed anywhere by a recruitment consultant.

2. In my current job I actually get all the perks I listed and more, with a considerably larger basic and commission package. And I walked out of Uni straight into a 25K job 14 years ago. ; )

3. You hit the nail on the head with manager hatred though. Good shot.

It's just the self riteous moaning I don't like. Next time you are in the staff room, have sit down in the corner and just have a little listen. It's like tinnitus, you don't notice it at first but as soon as you are made aware of existence you can never ignore it again. Like Roddy Piper in They Live, put on the shades and see for the first time.
( The only Dave is pushing things forward, Fri 28 May 2010, 11:39, closed)

i have to put my hands up at this point
and admit that i avoid the staff room like the plague.

Its full of fucking teachers.

I prefer to sit in my room and catch up with the news on google or indulge in a good book.

A few of my colleagues were caught overseas when the ashcloud of doom struck. On spent a week extra in italy and moaned everyones fucking face off when she found out she wasnt getting paid for it. I made a point of going to the staff room that day. Best fun i have had in ages.

In terms of moaniness amongst teachers i find that age plays a big factor. As soon as the hit forty the world turns against them.
(OTT, Fri 28 May 2010, 13:56, closed)

Lay off teachers
I nearly married one. She worked at least 8am until 6pm everyday, marked stuff and planned lessons in the evenings and at weekends. And during holidays.

The real reason you should lay off teachers, though, is that they have to spend all their working life with other peoples kids AND THEY CAN'T PUNCH THEM. Kids are absolute wankers most of the time. You absolutely need a bit more holiday than everyone else to get over that.

They don't get paid extra for taking the little cunts on school trips either. You take them away on a bus, look after them when they immediately eat all the sweets their cretinous parents have given them for a bus and ferry journey, make sure they don't get arrested or killed, try and make sure they learn something, and when you get back the parents don't even say thanks.

Plus my Mum was a teacher at my school, so I met many of mine as an adult as well. I'm fully aware of how unpleasant they can be - the one I nearly married took out all her anger on me when she got home - but they're driven to it.
(meat2veg hello!, Fri 28 May 2010, 1:56, closed)

It's not the fact they have a difficult job
they just whine about it and, as you say, bring the stress home with them. In both our cases with an extra shot of unvented rage.
( TheFinch is getting to grips with the complex plane on, Fri 28 May 2010, 9:12, closed)