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From little victories over your bank manager to epic wins over the law - tell us how you've put one over authority. Right on, kids!

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(, Thu 17 Jun 2010, 16:01)
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newspaper honesty box
A branch of Smith's at Victoria Station used to have an honesty box for newspapers, which I used to take advantage of on a weekly basis to prepare for a five hour coach journey: would pick up three or four from the following mags: Q, Empire, Total Film, Viz and either Bizarre or a magazine for my gf, pick up a copy of the Guardian and pay 2p for the lot.

Any time I felt slightly bad about it I would look at how much they charge for CD's, DVD's and snacks, and feel rather good about it after all.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 15:56, 33 replies)
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Maybe if little tea leaves like you stopped stealing stuff, their CDs and DVDs would be a bit cheaper.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:02, closed)
Nah.
It costs about 70p to get a CD to market, I think. The rest is tax and profitlols.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:05, closed)
That
doesn't make any sense.

WHSmith are the retailer. What has what it costs the record co or what the tax is got to do with it?
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:09, closed)
Petty theft lol

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:02, closed)
This is just stealing

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:03, closed)
Not really
It's an honesty box. No proper sales contract saying how much they are.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:06, closed)

isn't this topic about "sticking it to the man"? As someone else pointed out, most of the stories amount to spending an awful lot of time and effort simply getting what you're entitled to - to actually stick it to the man, shouldn't the "sticker" be the one that comes out on top through means fair or foul?
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:24, closed)
no
that's not what it means.

It means defying someone who is (or thinks they are) in a position of authority, and getting away with it.

You're just loading up with 10 quids worth of stuff, and paying 2p for it. That doesn't count at all.

And besides that, if the story isn't either amusing or has some charm to it, why bother?
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:30, closed)
Thus spake the internet opinion police.

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:32, closed)

Says he who has a response to just about everything he doesn't personally agree with. Often in a nasty tone.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:36, closed)
Yeah, but that's because I'm right about everything.

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:38, closed)
he is an' all
I advise him on such.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 18:07, closed)
Sod off that was fair comment

(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 23:36, closed)
Erm,
If you consider WH Smiths to be then 'man' then yes. But What did they do to you, apart from their perceived overcharging? You are not obliged to buy from them, plenty of alternatives. Sorry just a little bored of this QOTW bringing so many stories of plain theft justifying itself as a result 'for the man on the street'. Seems the man on the street is an embittered tosspot.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:35, closed)
Really? Because the legal def of "steal"
the wrongful or willful taking of money or property belonging to someone else with intent to deprive the owner of its use or benefit either temporarily or permanently

Sounds like he deprived WHSmith of the benefit of profit on the transaction.

Tell you what, give it a go and see if your defence stands up in court.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:47, closed)
Oh come on,
Yes, you can technically not call it theft.

But lets be honest, it's wrong. plain and simple.
Handing over 2p for a shitload of mags is not the actions of an honest individual.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:55, closed)
I was saying it was theft

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:57, closed)
My bad
I replied incorrectly to your post, sorry.

I was bound to fuck up eventually on here.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 17:05, closed)
No probs

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 17:07, closed)
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Where's the proper sales contract when you buy something inside WHSmiths?
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 16:51, closed)
Seeing an item on the shelf
is the "invitation to treat". Picking something up and taking it to the till counts as an offer to enter a contract. It does not have to be in writing or otherwise.
You can then enter a counter offer which will be limited to paying for it, or putting it back on the shelf.

The contract is then acted upon once they take your money for it.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 18:15, closed)
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Yeah, I did O level economics too.

The point was, what is the difference between the magazines outside the shop, and those inside, in terms of the requirement to pay for them?
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 8:48, closed)
yeah, there is. It's written on the front of the magazine. you want the magazine, you pay the contracted price.
walking to the honesty box consists just as much as entering into a contract as walking to the till. It's just another method of paying, like self-service tills are. It's still straight theft. The only way you could argue otherwise is if you could successfully claim that you were unaware of the prices of the items concerned. At which point the legal argument is that the onus lies with you, as the purchaser, to establish the cost, nice try son, still theft and have an extra fine/few hours community service for wasting the court's time and trying to be a smug cunt.

Otherwise we could all gleefully walk out of any shop we liked with something and claim that we didn't know the cost and assumed it was free.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 9:25, closed)
So by defying the "honesty" part of the honesty box
you have neatly defined yourself as being "dishonest"
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 17:06, closed)
Cunt.

(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 17:15, closed)
I like the way you say "used to"
Wonder why that might be, eh.

Still, thanks for making the rest of us have to queue up once again.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 17:57, closed)
70p......
Is probably what it costs to press a CD and print the artwork. On top of that, you've got to transport it to the shop, pay the shop rent, pay the staff, pay the electricity bills, and yeah, the retailer, the record label and the band all want to make some money too. I don't imagine you work for nothing, do you? If 70p was really what it actually cost, don't you think some enterprising individual would have destroyed everyone else in the market by selling them at £1.50? Go and look at WHSmiths accounts (they're publically traded, you have a right to see them) and tell me how come , if they're selling CDs at a 1000-2000 percent markup, they're not making more profit overall? Not only are you a cunt, you're a simpleton.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 19:32, closed)
Ok, so maybe not stealing
But still a rather cuntish thing to do.
(, Mon 21 Jun 2010, 21:20, closed)
Shoplifting pikey cunt.
They probably have to raise prices to make up for profits lost when scumbag thieves like yourself steal thier wares.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 10:05, closed)
The high horse posse has turned up
Let's be honest here; any organisation stupid enough to instigate something as daft as an 'honesty box' deserves to be punished for their naivety.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 12:12, closed)
Or, y'know
congratulated for trying to make people's lives easier and prevent them missing trains in long queues?

Oh, sorry, I forgot that the sworn duty of every human being is to be a much of an exploitative cunt as possible. Silly me.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 12:22, closed)
Yes, but this is planet earth we live on
Not happy-fun-honesty-land where theft doesn't exist.

Create a system like this and people will always take advantage, in case you hadn't noticed that's just the way of the world.
(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 12:39, closed)
You're basically just a bit of a cunt

(, Tue 22 Jun 2010, 23:34, closed)

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