the time of south london becoming a malarial swamp
(or more of a malarial swamp, this time with real water)
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:04, archived)

I'd much rather die of 'global warming' than anything else
If only it was real :(
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

If only what was real? Your death?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:07, archived)

Global Warming IS real.
It's 11 degrees Celcius outside in the middle of British winter. Daffodils are sprouting from the ground 4 months early.

Global warming is happening.
( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:07, archived)

I can't see any?
There are none in the garden
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:08, archived)

you are a twat

( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

So /talk is just the same as /board?
But with different people, and less rubbish pictures
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

I don't know.
When somebody says something stupid on the board, do people still tell them that they've said something stupid and then call them a twat?

If so then yes.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

I'm talking about what people say to me when I post anything
I'm very good at annoying idiots
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:15, archived)

There aren't many idiots here.
You've been misinformed.

On many things it appears.

And you haven't managed to annoy anybody ... bless your little socks for trying though. It must make your winkle tingle to feel so important.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:16, archived)

Just the same as /board...
*returns to /board*
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:17, archived)

/celebrates/

(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

you dear, are the idiot
this is evidenced by your spelling, grammar and content
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:16, archived)

you bring nothing to either
*ignores*
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

Well, they are certainly coming up at my work, and around Oxfordshire
I can't speak for everywhere obviously.
( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

Is sunny here in the West Mindlands
AND FREEZING COLD
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

ZOMG we are in the same county

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

TRIFFIDS!

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

10 of the hottest years in the past 65,000 years
have occured within the last 14 years.
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

What utter bollocks
there are no accurate temperature records past about 150 years ago
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

not actual written records
but fossil evidence can give information that can be extrapolated
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:15, archived)

not accurately
and I suspect the timeframe is too short for fossil records and accurate carbon analysis. I mean, you can look at old trees and tell which years were warm/cold/wet/dry but nothing with any degree of accuracy.

Anyway, the last few tens of thousands of years have been us coming out of a major ice age with a few mini ice-age blips. Stands to reason the average temperature will increase

For the record, I believe that human activity is responsible for global warming, no question, but that doesn't mean there is any PROOF, and that's where enviromental groups fall down.

After all, the earth has been a lot lot warmer than this in the past, before we could possibly have had an influence.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:23, archived)

no it hasn't
that's the point. (unless you're talking about just after it was 'created')
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:29, archived)

erm, yes it has
there have been significant periods where there have been no polar ice caps. I'd classify that as "warmer"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:36, archived)

What I find sad
is that there are plenty of other reasons not to drive big fuck-off SUVs and emit giant chemical clouds from factories. But because this reason receives all of the attention and can't be proven, people dismiss the whole topic.
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:30, archived)

no but
by looking at relative changes such as ice cores etc, some clever people can get a very good idea of what temperature is doing.
( mazurka wants two's up on your mum., Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

I'm pretty sure they can't do it with nearly enough accuracy
to compare annual highs.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:21, archived)

I believe in global warming as much as most people
but that alone is hardly evidence
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

I can only comment on the effects I've seen can't I?

( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:13, archived)

you can
but without evidence, you can't comment on the cause... at least not credibly
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:20, archived)

The climate cycles
we were in a mini-ice age just over a hundred years ago.

Yes, the earth is warming up. CO2 emissions are almost certainly not helping and should be reduced. But there is no solid evidence anywhere that what we are seeing is not part of the planets temperature cycle.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

You read Micheal Chriton too ?
;)
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

No mate
I'm a Biochemical Engineering Lecturer. I might have some background on this ;)
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

then you'll know that temperature and CO2 emissions can be read from the frozen
ice in antartica in the same way that a tree surgeon can get info from the rings inside a tree. These records, which go back 65,000 years , do indeed show a cyclic system at work. However, the amount of CO2 being captured in the ice over the last few decades is at a much, much higher level than ever seen before.,
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:18, archived)

Shit, I best close down all those industrial plants around antartica.
It couldn't be anything else, like the world evolving naturaly.

I'm not saying that Global Warming doesn't exist, just that people are giving humans too much credit.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:22, archived)

no, you can't
well, CO2 maybe. Temperature, absolutely not. Not past freeze-thaw data anyway, which is difficult to interpret and probably meaningless.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:25, archived)

Hehe.
You should read his book "State of Fear", I think you'll find it interesting.

I know jack-shit really about this stuff, but I found the book quite entertaining.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:20, archived)

NOVEL.
FICTION.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

Oh', yes, because all fiction and novels are entirely false and could NEVER be bassed on fact.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:18, archived)

Oh Jesus fucked by a horse
I need a cup of tea
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:21, archived)

I do hope it's herbal and fairtrade.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:23, archived)

Good grief, man, look at his fucking track record.
He's a scifi writer, for pity's sake.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:30, archived)

When I own my own plane
If the government tells me they're going to tax me more, I'll move to a country where they haven't invented 'global warming'
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

If by "not helping" you mean "accelerating global warming"
then whether it would be happening on its own (I am convinced that it wouldn't, on anything like the scale we're seeing) seems immaterial anyway.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:17, archived)

And we're essencialy just coming out of an ice-age.
They used to have markets on The Themes when it froze over.

Ovbously it's going to get hotter.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

This.
And aren't we currently closer to the sun? The Earth's orbit changes, y'know.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

fuck me you're right.
I'll take it all back. PANIC OVER EVERYBODY.
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:21, archived)

haha
you've solved it!
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:22, archived)

( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:31, archived)