Gender studies are shit
You are a man or a woman. Get over it.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:23, archived)

Not necessarily.
Sex and gender aren't the same. Your sex is which one you are biologically (which is either male or female, except in rare cases), and your gender is which one you are mentally and emotionally.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:24, archived)

Yes, but it's shit
*hated sociology*
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:25, archived)

That's prety insensitive towards genderless and liquid-gendered people.

( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:25, archived)

Don't get me started
I can't be arsed arguing why I think it's shit, just know that I do.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:26, archived)

Oh come on
You have to be able to defend your retarded views a bit.
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:29, archived)

I don't want to get started on a massive rant
I am restraining myself.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:30, archived)

Is this your way of saying
'I've said something a bit stupid and I don't want anyone to think that I am, so I'll just back down whilst making it look like I'm not backing down?'
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:31, archived)

No
It's a "I really can't be arsed typing everything that I want to say" saying.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:32, archived)

I'd really like a justification of your views
but that's fine, chicken out.

chicken
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:33, archived)

I'll give you a list later
If it bothers you that much?
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:34, archived)

Why not just do it now, then?

( Bud Muhnquai Update your profile or fuck off, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:35, archived)

Because I can't be arsed
Is that not clear?
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:36, archived)

In the time it's taken you to make all those replies, you could have done it.
You're worried people will think you're a thicko.

Thicko.
( Bud Muhnquai Update your profile or fuck off, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:37, archived)

*buc buc buc*

( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:38, archived)

Obviously that's the reason
I could never be as clever as the likes of you.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:40, archived)

*buc buc buckawww*

( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:41, archived)

Well, clearly.
You're Scottish, for a start.
( Bud Muhnquai Update your profile or fuck off, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:41, archived)

*chicken noises*

( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:35, archived)

Liquid gender?
What?
( Malaka omdz, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

Or ambivalent-gender, if you prefer.
Sometimes male, sometimes female.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:29, archived)

We should round them up and keep them in a cage.
We could charge people money to watch them.
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

You'd never keep someone made of liquid in a cage.
I've seen Xmen 2, I'm an expert.
( Bud Muhnquai Update your profile or fuck off, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

How about a sort of sealed fishtank?
with tiny holes that are way to high for the liquid people to reach them, through which we could feed them etc.
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:30, archived)

Use a tube
Or don't feed them.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:32, archived)

I would want to prolong the pleasure for the viewers as long as possible
feeding would be required.
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:35, archived)

Genderless ?
how do they pee ?
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:28, archived)

Out of their belly button.

( Bud Muhnquai Update your profile or fuck off, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:29, archived)

Did you even read my above posts?

( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:29, archived)

To be fair, it was needlessly over-complicated.

( Bud Muhnquai Update your profile or fuck off, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:30, archived)

are you excempt from people taking the piss out of you ?

( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:32, archived)

I couldn't tell that you were joking;
I thought you were just being thick.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:33, archived)

I'd like to pronounce this post "bollocks"

it might be true from a strict definition point of view for all I care, that doesn't stop it being airy-fairy handwaving horseshit of the highest order.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:26, archived)

Most people have the same gender as their sex,
but not everyone does. Sexuality and gender are not black and white at all.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

True
That's race.
( Lord Gnome, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:28, archived)

Arf

( broadsword now that's fresh, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:38, archived)

She said it in a poncy way, but gender and sex are not the same thing.
That's kind of why we have different words for them.
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:32, archived)

Not really.
If you apply for a job and the form asks for your gender, they don't let you put "physically I am endowed with a rubbish penis but with every waking moment of my day I wish to have a vajoojoo".
( Noit happy baby orangutan, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

Because it's stupid.

( Noit happy baby orangutan, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:28, archived)

The form
is probably written by a thick dipshit in HR.
(Eeh Blah Gum, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:40, archived)

Pfft

( broadsword now that's fresh, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:28, archived)

They shouldn't be asking for it at all;
they should be recruiting you based on your skills and experience, but that's a different discussion.

And I don't think something is true or not according to whether it will fit on a job application.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:29, archived)

they have to ask for it.
they need the stats to demostrate that they are employing without bias. Welcome to the wonderful world of HR

Think yourself it's only gender. My Scottish Hockey registration form this year asks for sexual preference.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:31, archived)

That's fecking daft.
I'd hate to think I was employed to fill a quota rather than for my skills.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:32, archived)

you wouldn't be.
but once you are, they'd have to produce a report showing that their employed staff match the area demographic blah blah blah.

think yourself lucky. You'll be in great demand to fill the 0.00001% asexual cybergoth mentallist demographic.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:35, archived)

I'm not a fucking goth.

( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:36, archived)

Goffic!
*points at you*
( WormuIus, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:39, archived)

Poo Goff!
lolz
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:41, archived)

So they know which of the many changing rooms they need to put you in

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:33, archived)

no
so they can go "oh no, we have a lower* proportion of gays playing hockey than in the general population, how do we attract more flouncing marys to scottish hockey?"

* yes, LOL, hockey is a girls game so lower higher
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:37, archived)

Are you obliged to answer that question?
They may be obliged to ask it.
( Lord Gnome, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:36, archived)

course not
same as you aren't obliged to fill in your ethnicity, religious views, etc. But it's hardly a secret and if they think they can do something useful with it, good luck toy them.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:39, archived)

My guess is
That it gives the Office of National Statistics a reason to validate its budget as much as anything else- particularly when it comes to voluntary activities. I can see the point as regards employment as a way of measuring the effects of equal employment legislation, however I think there is a misconception about that too; namely that equal employment legislation merely states that it is illegal to discriminate against people on certain bases and does not actually set quotas which is the way it's often seen.
( Lord Gnome, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:46, archived)

Age and gender and race are no longer acceptable requirements
when advertising for a job.
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:31, archived)

when advertising, no
but they are virtually legal requirments when applying or employing.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:32, archived)

I employed a female
to do a job that historically attracts men, but I know that times are changing. But we had to let her go, not because she was female, but because she was shit.
In my team, no two people are from the same country. Its not a choice to show that I'm being racially fair, its actually because it makes the work for the team easier, as we have to deal with people from many countries, including the countries of origin of the staff i employ.
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:37, archived)

I can't quite work out what you're saying here?
the only point I'm making is that these days it's pretty much compulsory for HR departments to compile stats on sex, ethnicity etc of employees and compare them with the general public so that they can hand-wring over why there aren't enough sikh lesbians in car maintainence.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:42, archived)

I'm saying that I emplyed a female
but had to let her go because she was shit at the job, not because she was female.

I'm also saying that I have employed people from many racial backgrounds, but that wasn't to be racially fair, it was because having people of different racial backgrounds made the work easier for everyone.
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:47, archived)

well, yes, obviously, but that wasn't what my post was about
but I wasn't accusing you of being discrimantory, sorry, it just sounded like you were validating yourself a bit.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:54, archived)

Being accused of discrimination
In a professional sense is the modern equivalent of being accused of witchcraft. It's little wonder that sometimes people can be a little too self-validatory in their approach.
( Lord Gnome, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 14:05, archived)

They are
if you're advertising for a bra-fitter. Or a penis model.
(Eeh Blah Gum, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:50, archived)

Nonsense.
Gender is a grammatical term which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with sex.
NOTHING AT ALL.
IN THE FUCKING SLIGHTEST.
Is that clear?
( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

It is a grammatical term
but it has another meaning too.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:30, archived)

It's been given another meaning by idiots.
And we already have a perfectly good word for that meaning.
( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:34, archived)

Which is?

( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:36, archived)

Sex.

( Dr Preference AjcuiVd289, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:37, archived)

But sex isn't gender.
It's alright for you; you're the same gender as your sex. Not everyone is.
( Bob Todd whee, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:49, archived)

If you've got a cock, you're a bloke, and if you've got a vag, you're a woman.
If you've lost your genitals in a horrific sanding accident, then we'll go on the basis of whether a clone of you would have drippy or dangly bits. If you've got a cock and you think you're a woman, you're not a woman, you're a mental.
( Shegetz Chris Kamara's comedy moustache, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:50, archived)

or both!
i watched a short video clip in which two hermaphrodites were 'doing each other' at the same time. What sort of confusing situation is this ?
I suspect they were really both men male at one time, but had the operation to make a fanny, without removing the dangley parts.
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:27, archived)

I'm clicking this so everyone knows what sick and twisted things you watch

( SuperMatt, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:28, archived)

well yesterday, everybody told me to watch the porn in the hotel.


And actually, a link to that video was posted on here by somebody else, which I clicked out of curiosity because i could see that is was not "ilovehorses"
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:34, archived)

I've seen it too, if it's a similar video
15 minutes long, outwardly women, but with willies.

AND vajoojoo's.
( moohalaa, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:36, archived)

Vajoojoo is my new favourite word

( broadsword now that's fresh, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:39, archived)

I'd like to see this, simply for research purposes.

( Malaka omdz, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:29, archived)

www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=hermaphrodite+sex&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Its Google, its SFW, the links Google provides may be NSFW
( turb0t, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 13:41, archived)