This is an edit: Obviously
It shocks me how fast B3ta is to pick up on mistakes...

I am not even close to being smart enough to have a real opinion on the Israel/Palestine conflict.

but my uninformed feeling is that anti-semitism is a real problem, but wanting Palestinians to have a country of their own is not the same as being anti-jewish.

And I guess my simplicity is going to get me even more shit now, isn't it?
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:10, archived)

No thanks.

( LimeyTreat Bitch. Lover. Child. Mother. Sinner. Saint., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:10, archived)

Near the top!
Personally, I think all forms of racism are just fucking stupid in the first place, let alone just anti-Semitism.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:46, archived)

That's exactly what the darkies think too.

( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:47, archived)

those crazy nig nog wim wams and their crazy thoughts.

(Bazongaloid, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:48, archived)

Except anti-Armenianism.
They just will not shut UP about the genocide.
( ArthurTheRat, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:48, archived)

I've decided to stop being racist
racism is a crime, and crime is for black people.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:49, archived)

thank god you put it near the top, this has changed my entire world view

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:56, archived)

The only practical approach is to insult everyone equally
except the French, the cunts
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Sat 16 May 2009, 15:01, archived)

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:10, archived)

And it's a very complex issue.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:22, archived)

Which side are you on?
This is very important, think carefully about your answer.
(bogus official shove it up your cunt, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:11, archived)

Yes please.

( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:11, archived)

alright scarpe

( rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:11, archived)

Don't worry folks, I'm here.
What seems to be the problem? No doubt I can solve it. In a sexy, sexy way.
(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:13, archived)

To your edit:
I've no idea what you're on about, but there is no one Palestinian 'country'.
(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:18, archived)

God you're sexy.

(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:19, archived)

He's got me reading the history of Palestine right now,
and I'm having trouble enough even working out what a "Palestinian" is supposed to be.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:34, archived)

wasn't morph a palestinian?

( spacefish bong!, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:39, archived)

why did you do that?

( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:14, archived)

By
mistake
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:43, archived)

my debating limit today is
jammy doughnuts - castor or normal sugar dusted?
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:20, archived)

anyone who says castor is a dick

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:20, archived)

i'm not getting involved in this tinder box, soz, no offence,
great
( mongychops, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:27, archived)

Normal.
Why castor sugar? Does anyone actually do that?
( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:29, archived)

both morrisons and tescos seem to

( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:32, archived)

to be honest i have no opinion worth airing, sorry, no offence
great
( mongychops, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:22, archived)

Nobody likes Jews.

( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:28, archived)

What is they have dougnuts?
Or if you were feeling ill and a Jew made you eggy cup?
(Bazongaloid, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:28, archived)

I'd reject it and ask if the nearest mossie would like to give me a doughnut/eggy cup

( Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:29, archived)

A mosquito couldn't carry a doughnut
that's crazy talk.
(Bazongaloid, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:31, archived)

Two groups of self-confessedly incompatible religious zealouts
want exclusive rights to the same piece of land. The only possible options are:
a) kill them both
b) time-share
c) pack it in, the pair of you, or I'll knock your heads together so help me I will, just you wait till your Dad gets home.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:31, archived)

Harry Hill would say there's only one way to sort it out.
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTT!!!
( Willwillwritehiswill An arse like a slapped face., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:32, archived)

They've tried that for a while though
and it's got a bit boring.

What they really need is a few Honda Accords to put the fear of god into the lot of them.
(Bazongaloid, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:34, archived)

Talking about getting a bit boring...

( Willwillwritehiswill An arse like a slapped face., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:42, archived)

Excellent.
*promotes you to middle eastern envoy*

I take it by 'Dad' you mean 'God'?
( The Cat's Mother Not a People Person., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:34, archived)

haha
definitely c.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:35, archived)

i think it's more the fact you're taking this awfully seriously.

( Willwillwritehiswill An arse like a slapped face., Sat 16 May 2009, 14:31, archived)

Freedom For Tooting!

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:35, archived)

There's a good short history of israel here
www.mideastweb.org/briefhistory.htm

with lots of links in it

The jewish claim to israel is probably akin to Italians claiming England because it used to be part of the Roman Empire
( CanonCaliber A big bore, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:40, archived)

Not really,
it's more like the Scots claiming Scotland.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:43, archived)

I have a friend
who can enumerate and explain the evidence proving the Welsh are the lost tribe of Israel. It's almost touching.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:50, archived)

There's a charming Irish folk story
about how the Irish language is an attempted reconstruction of Humanity's original language from before the Tower of Babel incident, by an Irish builder who had worked on the project.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:55, archived)

Rastafarians claim the same
I reckon they should fight it out.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:58, archived)

Nobody lived in scotland before the Scots
Israel was populated by non-jews before the first israeli tribes conquered it
( CanonCaliber A big bore, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:50, archived)

Picts and Britons lived there before the Scots.
Canaanites lived in Israel before the Israelites, fair enough, but just like Picts, they no longer exist as a people, so we can hardly put them back. The Arabs, on the other hand, only have a claim on the region after invading it in the 7th century.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:53, archived)

One of the problems of history is defining a people by the name of it's rulers
A group of people and their descendants are known by different names throughout history according to the name of their rulers of the time
also many different peoples transform into new peoples through migration, invasion, and inter-marriage
( CanonCaliber A big bore, Sat 16 May 2009, 15:10, archived)

What the fuck has that got to do with it?
You're just trying to obfuscate the issue now in a vain attempt to not look stupid.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 15:14, archived)

Who put the ram In the rama lama ding dong?

( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:55, archived)

Yes they did
the Scots came over from Ireland. Places like Skara Brae are pre-Celtic.

And the Arabs were fairly late on the scene in Israel.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:56, archived)

Not really
unless the Romans had built their most sacred religious temple in Dorking.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:43, archived)

Israel means 'promised land'.
What with all the bombings and so-forth, they've got really, really low standards, don't you think?
(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:47, archived)

My mum used to say "and that's not a threat, it's a promise"
when she was telling me off.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:48, archived)

... and was then granted to Italy by a UN resolution in the 40s.
Italy having been overrun with Yugoslavians, and Italians living in a large diaspora over much of Europe, with several hundred thousand remaining in England after the fall of the Empire.

An excellent analogy, and one I hope to see Peter Snow using on Newsnight soon.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:48, archived)

Actually,
you *may* have an analogy if it were the Italians claiming Romania.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:49, archived)

simply mentioning the israel-palestine conflict is effectively racism
you horrible racist
( spacefish bong!, Sat 16 May 2009, 14:44, archived)