Ding dong the witch is
not quite dead.
( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:56, archived)

I'm not quite sure, why am I meant to hate her?
The manwife doesn't like her, but then his Dad is all unionised and Labour-loving, so that makes sense I guess. What did she do?
( Bats, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:57, archived)

She stopped free milk, thus threatening the health of bones and teeth across the land.

( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:00, archived)

I never got milk at school.
I don't see why it's an issue.
( Bats, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:00, archived)

Yes but that's why every time you eat something acidic your teeth melt

( Theoban What of it, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:01, archived)

I thought it was just the radioactive Coke I drink.
Thank god it's just calcium deficiency.
( Bats, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:04, archived)

She also sold off national utilities, f*cked the coal mining industry, made the rich even richer.
AND STOPPED FREE MILK.
( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:03, archived)

we don't have a coal-mining industry.
Thatcher might have done a lot of bad shit but she didn't make coal disappear. We had used up all the stuff that was ecomonically viable to recover. You can't just go on mining something at a loss because "it's nice for people to have jobs"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:08, archived)

Well she didn't help.
WHAT ABOUT THE MILK!?
( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:11, archived)

she also raped the country, selling off everything to the highest bidder...
now we're in a situation where we're now pretty much buying the country back
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:02, archived)

the nation was utterly fucked
in the grip of a terrifying recession, paralysed by idiot unions and slowly sliding back into the dark ages. Her solution might have been vicious but it was the only viable one, and it almost certainly saved the economy at the time
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:06, archived)

are these the same "idiot" unions whose work throughout last century have afforded you and others in this country the employment rights we currently have?
although... vicariously - through my father - I've seen unions become as clearly corrupt as the government...

who do you actually trust? I'm going to start my own country! you're not invited! so there!
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:11, archived)

Can I come?
Unions can do good things, but many let their power go to their heads: See Bob Crow
( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:13, archived)

^that statement has summed it up in a neat little package

(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:14, archived)

I agree
i'd still immediately describe any union with a striking policy as cunts without bothering to read further though. It's not, and never has been, necessary to strike. It's just blackmail and extortion and should be treated as such. Let's see how Crow copes with seven years in the Scrubs.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:21, archived)

even when things like safety are at stake?
I'll meet you halfway and say it's excessive over of the brand of coffee in the kitchen.
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:23, archived)

All political systems have brute physical resistance at their base
if a union can't strike, it can't bargain.

And it's no more extortion than an employer threatening to deprive you of your livelihood if you don't tow the company line in every way.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:26, archived)

actually, I disagree.
I think it's far more extortion. You can always leave your job. Your employer can't fire you under the same situation.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:39, archived)

poor sematics
I didn't mean all unions are idiots, just some.

but it is actually most. the problem, basically is that unions have no concept of reality and never have done. If you tune out the rhetoric of any union's demands over the last 30 years or so it says "butbutbut we wanna pony and to go to bed later and cake AND jelly and icecream and why can't we play some more IT'S NOT FAIIIIRRRRRRR"

bunch. of. cunts. Especially Bob Crow.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:17, archived)

I don't know too much about it in all fairness.
Too young, you see.
( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:12, archived)

this.
I know I should be angry at her for something, but I'm not entirely sure what. and she's just a little old lady now, really.
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:16, archived)

"only" is a bit controversial
plenty of other western countries survived without nationalisation on that scale, and with more influential unions.

For me it was more the sanctimonious conservative-with-a-small-c preachy family values smug undemocratic nastiness of her that failed to appeal.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:20, archived)

it must be something about the British corruption and work ethic then
we couldn't possibly have survived with the power that the completely corrupt unions wielded at the end of the seventies

and of course it's a bit controversial - it's b3ta, sweeping generalisations'r'us ;)

I just get fed up of people hating thatcher when they don't even understand why. I'll give you your reasons though, they were unpleasant truths of her regime. except the undemocratic bit. she was no more or less democratic then her predecessors or her successors, only she was undemocratic in different ways ;)
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:25, archived)

Major was good for democracy
Blair was if anything worse, the power-drunk cunt.

But Thatcher centralised a lot of powers that were better served (IMO) by local councils, largely because local councils were a less right-wing than parliament. Plus she presided over a huge number of Quangoes being set up, and set a lot of government decision-making over to private companies.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:28, archived)

but local councils were more corrupt than Mugabe at the time. GLC, anyone?
Swings and roundabouts.

but, yeah, the Quango stuff is dodgy. But New Labour are a thousand times worse for that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:41, archived)

I though New Labour were still selling stuff off
which is why we hate them as they're just tory-lite nowadays?
( Noit happy baby orangutan, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:06, archived)

I'm not a "new" labour supporter either...

(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:09, archived)

Gordon Brown is a thoroughly corrupt fucker and no mistake...
the only thing that this government has got right is Northern Ireland
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:13, archived)

And she's old and looks a bit funny now
FUCK HER, BITCH
( Theoban What of it, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:13, archived)

That's a good thing though
Milk is wrong.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:06, archived)

Yeah, but when most people put milk on their breakfast
their breakfast isn't chips.
( Noit happy baby orangutan, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:08, archived)

LOLFAT

( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:09, archived)

She did lots of things, same as every other government.
Some were okay, some were really shitty.
You are meant to hate her because of the shitty things, ignore the good things, and sternly ignore the notion that we've had many governments since who have failed to right some of the wrongs.
(thediscokingpin, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:12, archived)

I hate this one more
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8096833.stm
(PsychoChomp, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:57, archived)

She looks like she's wearing a wax mask.

( Bats, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:58, archived)

It's probably made of kittens blood
not wax
(PsychoChomp, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:59, archived)

She's trying to rebuild bridges
Evil fucking bitch. I kinda hope she dies of something nasty.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:59, archived)

I want her to swap pancreases with SSG

(PsychoChomp, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:00, archived)

SSG ALWAYZ IN AER HARTS

( Bats, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:01, archived)

Something like elephantisis and haemmorhoids mixed together
would be appropriate.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:05, archived)

god she looks like a grotesque mediaeval puppet

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:04, archived)

Aaah
I hate her.
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:07, archived)

She looks like a weasel.

( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:13, archived)

that should start
"The devil rubbed his hands together in delight after... "
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:57, archived)

She's gradually turning into The Emperor from Star Wars, isn't she?

( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:58, archived)

haha

(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:58, archived)

She really, really is.

( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:58, archived)

yes but BUT
can you get all 100 stars?
www.nekogames.jp/mt/2009/05/cat_gets_100_stars.html
( manolith hooray for me, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:59, archived)

Noisy.

( Jobe, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:10, archived)

ah, i have the sound off
did you get 'em all?
( manolith hooray for me, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:18, archived)

Fingers crossed eh?

( Amorous Badger NAKED BEA ARTHUR PHOTOS 4U, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:59, archived)

Haben sie
img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/bad_lady/queenofevil.jpg
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 11:59, archived)

That's an awesome picture.
/ac
( Bats, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:05, archived)

Vielen dank.
It didn't turn out as well as expected, but the face did. Her exression was different before, more friendly.
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:07, archived)

*fears*

( Maximinimus you stick around I'll make it worth your while, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:07, archived)

i hope she makes a speedy recovery, great lady

( mongychops, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:06, archived)

meh, false alarm, wake me up when she falls into a car crusher full of razor wire

( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:10, archived)

Hmm.
I'm waiting for people born in the 90s to rattle into her, citing a lot of legacy issues that subsequent governments have failed to patch up as if it was still all her fault.
(thediscokingpin, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:10, archived)

Most people hate her because they are told to. I don't understand that.
I'm not Tory, I don't like the woman, but she was politically inevitable. And I struggle to see why people think privatisation was all bad. I remember nationalised industry. It was just as fucking shit, but for different reasons.

/LOLcontroversionalopinion.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:13, archived)

We have this conversation too often
www.b3ta.com/talk/6213591
( Pickle Fairy is clumsily dancing away this fear, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:16, archived)

I'd agree with all of that.
My community did well out of the right to buy scheme. A lot of people didn't and I understand that, but as someone who benefited it's probably natural I think she was alright.

Plus she sent a squadron of Vulcan's to Argentina just to say 'we might be a little island in the North Sea, but we can screw you good and hard if we want'.
(thediscokingpin, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:18, archived)

just because subsequent governments haven't fixed the problems...
doesn't make her any less contemptible...
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:17, archived)

I agree. But it just makes them more contemptible.
Youre either part of the solution or you're part of the problem, and all that.
(thediscokingpin, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:19, archived)

i think the moral of the story is:
politicians are cunts... the end
(likeajackhammer, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:24, archived)

if you're not part of the solution
you're part of the precipitate.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:27, archived)