Is that a photo or a drawing?Either way...
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Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:33,
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I think my problem with heavy HDRis that it crosses the line from photography into art. But I guess it will just be one of those things that other people like and I don't. Like dogs, or small children.
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The Coast Of Yemen,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:38,
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no I totally agree - it's easy to see why alot of people hate it, especially photographersI like it because it makes stuff look like Silent Hill :)
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Sun 15 May 2011, 9:41,
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are you saying photographyisn't art?
*prepares to get on high horse*
(*prepares to get on high horse*
Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:56,
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yeah, it's just pressing a button*runs*
Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:58,
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*clambers onto unnaturally high horse* Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:00,
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:oWhat's the weather like up there?
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Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:02,
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/shoutswhat's that? I can't quite hear you for this cloud in my ear
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:08,
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I said,...what's th... oh never mind. Cheerio!
( Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:32,
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I don't know, I'm not much of a philosopherand I'm certainly not trying to force my beliefs on anyone (or even myself).
But I always feel a little cheated when a photo has been excessively altered, but still passed off as photography. There's a little voice in my head that goes "oh - so it didn't actually look like that?".
But at the same time I think long exposure shots that reveal what your eyes can't see are the fucking best thing ever.
(But I always feel a little cheated when a photo has been excessively altered, but still passed off as photography. There's a little voice in my head that goes "oh - so it didn't actually look like that?".
But at the same time I think long exposure shots that reveal what your eyes can't see are the fucking best thing ever.
The Coast Of Yemen,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:16,
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photography may be a thing which resembles objects in the real world, but they are always constructions even with 'straight' photography. You have to consider the photographer made choices at every point, even to press the button at all. Your average photograph doesn't even represent the contrasts and lighting as we, as humans, see them, since our eyes and brain are far more sophisticated and complicated than CCDs or chemicals, and all HDR is is an extension of that.
Photography as an art form is far wider and nebulous than most people realise. Pigeon-holes are meant to be broken out of and rules are there for the bending.
Thus ends my Sunday Lecture
(Photography as an art form is far wider and nebulous than most people realise. Pigeon-holes are meant to be broken out of and rules are there for the bending.
Thus ends my Sunday Lecture
Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:21,
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the difference being it's done, at the time, with a cameraas opposed to done later with photoshop.
not that i'm saying it's a bad thing
(not that i'm saying it's a bad thing
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:26,
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Does this make a real difference?Many people will cite Ansel Adams and his mates as 'real' photographers who didn't arse around with pictures (like the pictorialists who mashed up pictures from loads of negatives), but he spent hours adjusting, burning, dodging, etc. his images in the darkroom.
edit for clarity: this is an example of Pictorialism, it's made up of a shit load of negatives. All this Photoshop shit ain't new
www.codex99.com/photography/images/rejlander_lg.jpg
(edit for clarity: this is an example of Pictorialism, it's made up of a shit load of negatives. All this Photoshop shit ain't new
www.codex99.com/photography/images/rejlander_lg.jpg
Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:31,
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i don't know what you are saying there, but it sounds like a contradiction real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:35,
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My point is that photographs have always had 'post-production' done to them to various degrees (ie darkroom stuff, messing with the photo itself) and so the argument that Photoshop stops an image being a 'proper' photograph isn't completely valid. I will agree that the lines between photography and graphic arts are now VERY blurred, but in any form of art being able to fit things into categories is not always the most useful or productive thing
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:38,
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i will forever more refer to myself as a photographeredited because it sounded pointlessly argumental
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:45,
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No, I think the argument about the status of photography/art is not useful or productive. I just disagree with where you place your distinction and your reason for it
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:49,
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ah, you repliednon of this makes sense now
however, i never intended to be productive when i expressed my opinion and i'm sure most photographers wouldn't give two hoots what i thought about post production.
my opinion is, for clarification, photography: pics developed as the pic was taken.
pic manipulation is not photography
(however, i never intended to be productive when i expressed my opinion and i'm sure most photographers wouldn't give two hoots what i thought about post production.
my opinion is, for clarification, photography: pics developed as the pic was taken.
pic manipulation is not photography
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:51,
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the keyword there is "developed"....the darkroom developing process will always affect the final image to some degree (colour, contrast etc) with the developer manipulating these factors in order to produce the developers desired result.
doing it in photoshop is no different in that respect.
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Sun 15 May 2011, 11:14,
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doing it in photoshop is no different in that respect.
only to a certain degree thoughmy point is art is art, whatever it is, including phtography.
photgraphy is a photograph. if it has to be edited with a computer it's simply no longer a photograph
(photgraphy is a photograph. if it has to be edited with a computer it's simply no longer a photograph
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:22,
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i sorta agree with the other dude...but i really liked this sentence. :D
*cleeeeek*
(*cleeeeek*
arrangedletters,
Sun 15 May 2011, 12:46,
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I heard him and his mates,Used to get high on developer and blaze zoots in the darkrooms.
( Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:37,
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where's your sense of adventure man!;)
( Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:23,
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those guys were MENTALpeople think F64 was named after the aperture setting but really it was named after their notoriously big 64 skin spliffs
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:41,
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balanced it on the dogs head. Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:17,
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I didn't take any notes, is that a problem?But, you're right - of course you're right.
( The Coast Of Yemen,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:29,
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Just make sure you hand your essayand final images in to faculty office by 3pm, tomorrow
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:32,
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If it looks good, isn't that enough?
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Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:25,
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in some ways, yes.some art is made for aesthetic reasons, is it really important to justify which category it fits in?
edit: also it's sunday and this is a lot like being at work
(edit: also it's sunday and this is a lot like being at work
Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:43,
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i just find the "If it looks good, isn't that enough?" really, really, loathsome real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:48,
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But art is for many different reasons and some of themare about hanging something nice on your wall.
However, I realise I'm mostly devil's-advocating here since I'm more of a fan of more deeply conceptual art stuff. Wow, I'm pretentious.
(However, I realise I'm mostly devil's-advocating here since I'm more of a fan of more deeply conceptual art stuff. Wow, I'm pretentious.
Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:52,
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you appear to feel quite strongly about it, for a devil's advocatei really don't care at all, i know nothing about art, apart from the cliched, i know what i like. For me, art is about being something to enjoy, or to provoke emotions.
photos and photoshop (amongst many other media) both do that for me
(photos and photoshop (amongst many other media) both do that for me
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:04,
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Were you heavily baked on your adventure?/rememberedyousmokeblog
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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:33,
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please tell me that's not derelict real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:35,
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shamelooks like a great property
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:53,
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yea i was going to buy it if I won the £107m euromillions jackpot on fridayI didn't winned though :(
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Sun 15 May 2011, 9:54,
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I missed that :(All because co-op didn't have a machine and I said I'd do it at home
( The Coast Of Yemen,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:17,
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Just saw a bookface post from my brother-in-law.He accidentally bought two of the same ticket on the lotto online and won a tenner on each...
( Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...",
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:15,
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there were loads of really nice houses near me that were just slowly falling to bitsi used to think about seeing how much they'd go for, then i'd remember i was in Brum and I'd never want to buy there
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:18,
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That is very lovely indeedBut - as WB asked - photo or artwork? Really nice looking thing, whatever it is.
EDIT: ah - you replied while I wrote this... nice baking skills, there.
(and WB - what a nice WooYay you have there... hmm... that sounds euphemistically rude)
(EDIT: ah - you replied while I wrote this... nice baking skills, there.
(and WB - what a nice WooYay you have there... hmm... that sounds euphemistically rude)
Skotzmun Blah blah secret passage blah blah diamonds.,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:37,
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well that's woken me up!Nicely
( Rocker_44 (-_-) shhhhh! Is asleep on,
Sun 15 May 2011, 9:38,
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Needs huffing, puffing wolfBut a neat pic all the same :)
( Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:16,
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*Awards triple points*
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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:24,
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Totally Awesome Dude :)That's a beautiful shot, as is all your work.
I recently did a few interactive panoramas using HDR.
London Aquarium
bit.ly/k2W28v
Jubilee Gardens, London
bit.ly/iHCOkJ
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Sun 15 May 2011, 10:26,
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I recently did a few interactive panoramas using HDR.
London Aquarium
bit.ly/k2W28v
Jubilee Gardens, London
bit.ly/iHCOkJ
Excellent workIt looks so processed that I’m almost tempted to request photos or it didn’t happen
: )
(: )
charlie brown doesn't have a dog but still enjoys shitbagging,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:27,
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hehe cheersjust for you, here's one of the 3 original pics used to make it:-
don't show the others :)
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Sun 15 May 2011, 10:39,
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don't show the others :)
HahahaYou were really there man... you were really there
( charlie brown doesn't have a dog but still enjoys shitbagging,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:43,
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How many Vietnam War veterans does it take to change a lighbulb?You don't know? OF COURSE YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU WEREN'T THERE MAN!
( Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...",
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:16,
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Haha!
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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?,
Sun 15 May 2011, 11:33,
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Hahahahahaah!This. A fun medium, but to be used sparingly
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Jahled Three shades of black,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:43,
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If anyone is interested, back in the mists of time, there was the b3ta RPS group on Flickr, where there would occasionally be RPS competitions (along the same theme as /board compos).
www.flickr.com/groups/b3ta-realphotos/
Would anyone be interested in joining and starting it back up again?
(www.flickr.com/groups/b3ta-realphotos/
Would anyone be interested in joining and starting it back up again?
The Coast Of Yemen,
Sun 15 May 2011, 10:31,
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Tis Awesome photography and artworkDo you ever dream about the spooky places you go and adventure into?
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Sun 15 May 2011, 11:08,
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thank you very muchlyyes I do quite often have weird dreams involving the places I've explored....I like having nightmares :)
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Sun 15 May 2011, 11:14,
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That's chuffin' excellentWhat a crackin' shot mate, and the HDR has come out beautifully.
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Coubs Salty toothpaste,
Sun 15 May 2011, 13:07,
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