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# 'One of them is a DARKIE'
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 20:36, archived)
# Racist RIS?
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 20:40, archived)
# He has an odd face. It's too large and comes out too far forwards. It looks like its been molded on top of another face.
No man has that much forehead.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 20:52, archived)
# It kind of does...
...and the neckbeardthing could be there to cover up the seam.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:14, archived)
# reminds me of the bloke in the painting in Ghostbusters 2
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:57, archived)
# Vigo?
You are like the buzzing of flies to him!
(, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 0:21, archived)
# He wins the category of best dressed mass murderers, hands down.
But the sideburns that go all the way from ear to ear scream "guilty".
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 20:54, archived)
# He does have a smashing gold tie.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 20:58, archived)
# I think Jeffrey Dahmer had a better hair cut.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:08, archived)
# It's seems to be a cross between a goatee and a neckbeard
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:04, archived)
# The what the?
Bundy, man, BUNDY.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:10, archived)
# Wow, he was a sharp dressed psycho.
I think we need to call in the referees.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:17, archived)
# Why is it that people who actually committed murderer lots of times are called serial killers
whereas people who didn't technically murder but killed lots of people indiscriminately are called mass murderers?
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:15, archived)
# How is killing people indiscriminately not murder? Is there some definition of murder someone hasn't told me?
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:17, archived)
# Murder is premeditated and specific, otherwise it's manslaughter
So if I decided to walk outside and kill the first person I saw it would be manslaughter. But if I decided specifically to kill you it would be murder.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:20, archived)
# No, if you'd had the fore-thought to kill "someone", that's premeditation.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:22, archived)
# And yes, in common law fore-thought does count as that even though you don't have a specific target in mind.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:24, archived)
# I could cite wikipedia, but we've all lost interest already.
Who has something shiny we can play with?
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:25, archived)
# Something shiny?
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:26, archived)
# I'm pretty sure it only counts as murder if you aimed to kill a specific person
although I suppose "specific" can be rather vague
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:27, archived)
# Oh he's got premeditated intent just by intending to shoot people. Intent to commit the crime is enough.
The four states of mind recognized as constituting "malice" are:

Intent to kill,
Intent to inflict grievous bodily harm short of death,
Reckless indifference to an unjustifiably high risk to human life (sometimes described as an "abandoned and malignant heart"), or
Intent to commit a dangerous felony (the "felony-murder" doctrine).

His actions were practically the definiton of malicious fore-thought.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:32, archived)
# Which is funny, because meditation is supposed to make you calmer
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:30, archived)
# Aw man, I recently switched to Buddhism.
Is Buddha going to try and kill me? I'm so fucking tired of my gods trying to kill me.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:34, archived)
# I think the murders have to be done on more than 2 separate occasions to be a serial killer.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:19, archived)
# The guy is obviously completely insane
i'm almost finding it a bit odd this is in a court given he's murdered over seventy people on a hate induced rampage, and not having his insanity discussed in a secure asylum by doctors and other medical staff
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:17, archived)
# I thought the same. But that would be a slippery slope.
Weird world we've created. I believe we're better off this way, as weird as it is. Lynch mobs are no fun.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:20, archived)
# It was, twice
This court case is basically to decide whether or not he is, legally, insane under Norwegian law. The first assessment said that yes, he was insane. The second assessment, a couple of weeks back, said no, he wasn't. So the trial has to decide first whether or not he'll be tried or whether he'll be locked in an asylum.

Yes, in most countries he'd be judged very quickly as being lucid enough to know what he did was "wrong" - he's admitted that himself, happily, in front of a judge. But Norwegian law doesn't work on those lines, though it almost certainly will as soon as the issue can be debated in parliament and changes made to the legislation. Norwegian law says you have to be judged medically insane, and simply being a psychopath is not judged as being medically insane for whatever stupid reason. (The first assessment judged him to have paranoid schizophrenia, along with numerous other pyschoses.)
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:22, archived)
# Paranoid Schizophrenia is not the same as being a Psychopath.
Paranoid schizophrenia involves, well, paranoia... voices and messed up emotions and shit. Psychopaths are much more rational.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:39, archived)
# No, it's clearly not the same
Since being judged a paranoid schizophrenic was enough to get him declared insane, while being judged a psychopath wasn't...
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:55, archived)
# Which shows that there's a difference between the two and that being a psychopath isn't the same as being a raging homicidal maniac.
Most psychopaths don't go on rampages.
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:59, archived)
# Doubtless also true
I'm certainly not trying to argue with you about this :)
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 22:19, archived)
#
he's already been declared sane though hasn't he before he could stand trial in a criminal court
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:24, archived)
# he was declared insane
then was declared sane in a separate assessment. i don't know what would've happened if he'd been declared insane the second time, but i imagine it would have gone to court anyway, so they could lock him away legally. but i'm not sure - i'm not norwegian, i just live here...
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:57, archived)
# Double negative, so...
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 22:02, archived)
# haha
whatever happens, i'm imagining he'll "commit suicide" within a year or two anyway
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 22:20, archived)
# .
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:10, archived)
# Is it the budget again already?
(, Mon 16 Apr 2012, 21:19, archived)