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# i think this compo should be closed
poor skaslut was in tears cos of all the racistness, can we please change the compo? it's really not very cool at all.
(I helped save b3ta! Zykatious Is all like WWOOOAAAHHHH, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:50, archived)
# i agree.
of course we could all make anti-kkk pictures...
(I helped save b3ta! *f o o f* is a craft-aholic, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:52, archived)
# I thought
that was what everyone had been doing all day?
(I helped save b3ta! supermoore: HUNG, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:53, archived)
# oh...
i just popped on... i dunno...


/relurk
(I helped save b3ta! *f o o f* is a craft-aholic, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:20, archived)
# for what its worth
i do agree
(ivor_the_engine, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:53, archived)
# It's not all particularly comfortable viewing is it?
On the other hand it may that only by taking the piss out of the KKK that they lose their personal idea of 'power' through the mystery being shown up to be just a load of crap.

I think that's the theory behind it all...
(I helped save b3ta! Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:53, archived)
# I think that's an exageration.
If you can show me a racist post I'll agree with you.

I've argued about this enough today. It's not going to get closed.
(I helped save b3ta! supermoore: HUNG, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:53, archived)
#
[·۰•● Zyk0tiK ●•۰·] Mmmm Dog says:
that was sposed to be kk , not kkk :P
Lu- what the hell is b3ta? says:
let you off then, i was in tears this morning cos i was so upset by it all, i think it s nasty
[·۰•● Zyk0tiK ●•۰·] Mmmm Dog says:
wow.... why it upset you so?
Lu- what the hell is b3ta? says:
i hate racism etc, and yes i can see its taking the piss but its only a matter of time before some real bigots start trashing the board with ignorance, i think it was a badly thought out idea and there wasnt even a vote on it
(I helped save b3ta! Zykatious Is all like WWOOOAAAHHHH, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:55, archived)
# I agree with Moore...
...its not actually racist, I don't think anyone on here is racist. The same with things such as the handicapped hangman & a certain video by Jonti and Rob, none of it is meant to offend, so you shouldn't let it.

(I helped save b3ta! Generationgav, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:55, archived)
# Intention or not
guys didn't mean to offend in the forties when they assumed that women wouldn't want to go out to work but that doesn't mean its right to encourage that kind of behaviour.
(I helped save b3ta! Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:03, archived)
# That argument is totally irrelevant.
The KKK is being held up a the subject of derision, and that is relevant to your argument in what way. How does it match?
(Mattyboy, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:07, archived)
# But is this tanatamount to encouraging that kind of behaviour ?
I agree that if someone actually starts up with racist posts then we deal with them - them alone and on their own merit.

Talking about racism is not racism.
Making stupid pictures which are clearly taking the piss out of right-wing racists is not racist.

I know it's not the sort of thing that people are meant to say when people have been upset by something, but learn to differentiate the menu from the meal.

Like someone above says, lets show people that stupid conical hats are just that, stupid ... if if these things are left as taboo then the imagery maintains its power and as such becomes aluring to those who seek it.

If everyone took the piss out of the KKK et al then who would want to be associated with that symbology? "Fear me, I look a bit like WizBit !!", yeah right.
(I helped save b3ta! Hagbard ... it's been a long time., Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:14, archived)
# Hmmmmm
could be construed as a bit harsh.
Maybe a little to un-PC

*edit:Fair point, everyone is taking the piss out of the stupid racist motherfuckers!
(I helped save b3ta! D3xt3r Don't take any guff from these fucking swine...., Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:54, archived)
# Motherfuckers?
Not their sisters and cousins, then?
(Astatine, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:07, archived)
# When has there been any racistness?
I havent seen a single post supporting the KKK, they are just the context
(I helped save b3ta! verbal, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:54, archived)
# just look at the post below
Dont come back till you lynch them all you hear?!

that my friend is racist.
(I helped save b3ta! Zykatious Is all like WWOOOAAAHHHH, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:56, archived)
# Is Canker actually proposing that as a real solution?
No, he's used it as a suitable caption to a KKK/Jet Set Willy-themed post.

You are clearly having trouble distinguishing between reality and b3ta, my friend.
(I helped save b3ta! verbal, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:57, archived)
# i'm just arguing on skaslut's behalf :)
[·۰•● Zyk0tiK ●•۰·] Mmmm Dog says:
some are protesting the pics are anti-kkk
Lu- what the hell is b3ta? says:
they are
Lu- what the hell is b3ta? says:
but my point is, that it is encouraging the wrong people onto the board
(I helped save b3ta! Zykatious Is all like WWOOOAAAHHHH, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:59, archived)
# does she know you're posting her side onto the board?
She may as well come on and talk about it if she wants. :)
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:01, archived)
# yes i believe she does.
:)
(I helped save b3ta! Zykatious Is all like WWOOOAAAHHHH, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:04, archived)
# would you
be so bothered if it was a bloke that was so upset?
(I helped save b3ta! Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:06, archived)
# well yes
if someone is so upset over it they get teary it's not something that should be around imo
(I helped save b3ta! Zykatious Is all like WWOOOAAAHHHH, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:12, archived)
# Or does she need looking after because she's a girl?
?
(Mattyboy, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:12, archived)
# Well
we haven't seen them yet.
(I helped save b3ta! Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:01, archived)
# I understand your point,
but I disagree.

And you can be pretty sure that if anyone posts an entry that is intended to be racist and hurtful, it won't go down well.
(I helped save b3ta! verbal, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:02, archived)
# I think the point is
that the theme of the comp is loose enough that things that really are actually offensive will get through without too much fuss.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I'm not really decided either way on the issue.
(I helped save b3ta! Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:05, archived)
# that my friend is implying
the stupidity of the KKK and their actions.
(I helped save b3ta! Darkedge, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:59, archived)
# No it isn't
it's a joke based on a computer game, there is no racist content.
(I helped save b3ta! Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:59, archived)
# Can you explain exactly how that is racist?
?
(Mattyboy, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:08, archived)
# No
No, don't change it. It's making me laugh.

I sincerely hope my emotions are being taken into account as well.
(Mattyboy, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:57, archived)
# I think it is
one of the funniest compos for some time.
(I helped save b3ta! jsut peopel, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 17:59, archived)
# after a week of being subtle
and actually having to think, it's a relief to just have a group we can take the piss out of
(I helped save b3ta! VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Fri 22 Aug 2003, 18:03, archived)