heywhat is a massive political power sat there and fucked over any country smaller than itself??
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Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:24,
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Well...less that 100 years ago, Great Britain?
Or, here's one. Churchill KNEW about the impending attack on the Luisitania... yet did NOTHING because he wanted Roosevelt to join the war.
I tell you, you fucking Brits are pretty damned smug for people who have NOTHING on us when it comes to oppression, strife, secrecy and an all around bad track record with the rest of the world.
(Or, here's one. Churchill KNEW about the impending attack on the Luisitania... yet did NOTHING because he wanted Roosevelt to join the war.
I tell you, you fucking Brits are pretty damned smug for people who have NOTHING on us when it comes to oppression, strife, secrecy and an all around bad track record with the rest of the world.
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:29,
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Actuallywe just had longer to do it than you've had yet.
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Cromagnon Don't waste my motherfucking time!,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:31,
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Indeed...Give us a few hundred years.
( Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:41,
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It wasn't just GBFrom about 1800 and below every major European country were bastards. Killings, genocides, crusades, wars, plots and oppression all round. Was all the rage.
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jme,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:02,
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so America is charged withacting just like every other European country did when they were less than 300 years old? Wow, no wonder the hypocrites are coming out of the woodwork.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:10,
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Experience?Yeh, but they have our experience to work from.
lets hope John Titor was right
(lets hope John Titor was right
Ulic hissing slightly,
Sat 11 Oct 2003, 10:51,
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We do a good linein self-depricating humour though.
( supermoore: HUNG,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:32,
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We learned from historyAmerica is like a teenage thug flexing it's muscles. Hasn't got a fucking clue. And any american who takes the moral highground with oppression is a cunt of the highest order.
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sick_boy,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:32,
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Oh really?Lets talk cunts shall we?
Oh Mr. Arab... and since you don't LIVE HERE I'll enlighten you... LOADS.
Most Arabs I know here are smug, capitalistic, greedy FUCKS who would KILL you for $100. But they're still American, so, on Sept. 11th, they felt the same any American would. And they still do. You forget, that the AMERICAN Army isn't just White, Christian MEN... It's men AND women from ALL walks of life. Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, hell, even Satan WOrship is at least tolerated here in America.
And if you are so Gung-Ho about being an Arab, about "Iraqi" pride and what-not.. why are you living in Britain? Is it because life is EASIER for you there? Maybe you should go back to femenine-oppression, worshipping and living by an out-dated code. THEN complain.
People who live in glass houses...
(Oh Mr. Arab... and since you don't LIVE HERE I'll enlighten you... LOADS.
Most Arabs I know here are smug, capitalistic, greedy FUCKS who would KILL you for $100. But they're still American, so, on Sept. 11th, they felt the same any American would. And they still do. You forget, that the AMERICAN Army isn't just White, Christian MEN... It's men AND women from ALL walks of life. Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, hell, even Satan WOrship is at least tolerated here in America.
And if you are so Gung-Ho about being an Arab, about "Iraqi" pride and what-not.. why are you living in Britain? Is it because life is EASIER for you there? Maybe you should go back to femenine-oppression, worshipping and living by an out-dated code. THEN complain.
People who live in glass houses...
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:40,
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WTFAYBOA?You seem to have lost your focus somewhat.
( Baz Fuck off,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:46,
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I think so...my final point is actually all I should have written.
( Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:47,
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we know werein a glass house.. at least we have the sense to open the windows when we are throwing bricks
( Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:49,
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He isn't an araband you sir are a racist.
that a MASSIVE generalisation.
I'll enlighten YOU:
Most corporations would kill you for $50 extra profit. Make you feel better?
(that a MASSIVE generalisation.
I'll enlighten YOU:
Most corporations would kill you for $50 extra profit. Make you feel better?
Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:48,
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Is it?How do you know? Are you here?
Most British people I know have bad teeth.
Most Irish people I know like to drink.
Most Asian people I know are really, really bad drivers.
Most Caucasian people I know can't dance.
Most fat chicks I know are UGLY.
Most tall people I know are wimps because they have never had to stick up for themselves.
Most Italian people I know eat ALOT of pasta.
And he stated so himself in a post not too far up the board there.
(Most British people I know have bad teeth.
Most Irish people I know like to drink.
Most Asian people I know are really, really bad drivers.
Most Caucasian people I know can't dance.
Most fat chicks I know are UGLY.
Most tall people I know are wimps because they have never had to stick up for themselves.
Most Italian people I know eat ALOT of pasta.
And he stated so himself in a post not too far up the board there.
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:56,
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so you've just proved yourselfto be bigoted and racist.
I applaud you.
(I applaud you.
Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:00,
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I think we could at xenophobic to that as well thirdman Ia! Ia! R'lyeh Cthulhu ftagn! Ia! Ia! Mglui nafl,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:03,
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I think we could add xenophobic to that as well thirdman Ia! Ia! R'lyeh Cthulhu ftagn! Ia! Ia! Mglui nafl,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:03,
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In his defen(s/c)eMost British people have (relative to Americans) bad teeth.
The Irish like a drink. It's true.
Italians eat pasta, and probably quite often.
I Can't speak for the driving. I think most people on the road are really bad drivers. But most Americans drive in very simple environments, and I always find it funny seeing them trying to drive when the roads aren't 80 foot wide and straight for 200miles, and when the car isn't choosing the gears, and the engine isn't purposely limited to only giving 0-60 in about a week.
Sorry. Didn't mean to get involved in this one.
(The Irish like a drink. It's true.
Italians eat pasta, and probably quite often.
I Can't speak for the driving. I think most people on the road are really bad drivers. But most Americans drive in very simple environments, and I always find it funny seeing them trying to drive when the roads aren't 80 foot wide and straight for 200miles, and when the car isn't choosing the gears, and the engine isn't purposely limited to only giving 0-60 in about a week.
Sorry. Didn't mean to get involved in this one.
wonko the sane,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 22:58,
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Which means that if an American calls someone a bad driver, they must really suck...If Americans are bad drivers, and consider asians bad drivers, it gives an indication of how bad asian drivers must be.
I know this is a massive generalization, I know several asians who drive as well as anyone else. Unfortunately, most people I flip off in traffic seem to be asian due to their tendancies to drive half the posted speeds, take up multiple lanes, never use a signal or check blind spots before making turns or lane changes, and so on...
Also, lets not forget that the Americans invented the car. I think that, in regards to national driving customs, that should afford us some level of authority.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 16:36,
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I know this is a massive generalization, I know several asians who drive as well as anyone else. Unfortunately, most people I flip off in traffic seem to be asian due to their tendancies to drive half the posted speeds, take up multiple lanes, never use a signal or check blind spots before making turns or lane changes, and so on...
Also, lets not forget that the Americans invented the car. I think that, in regards to national driving customs, that should afford us some level of authority.
eerrmmmmm....I think your wrong there.....
"In 1889 Daimler and Maybach placed their engine into a horse carriage and drove the car at speeds of 12 miles per hour. They had therefore produced the first four-wheeled automobile. After the men had designed a gearbox and a belt-driven mechanism to steer the wheels, they decided to sell the cars." - not a yank in sight.....sorry!
("In 1889 Daimler and Maybach placed their engine into a horse carriage and drove the car at speeds of 12 miles per hour. They had therefore produced the first four-wheeled automobile. After the men had designed a gearbox and a belt-driven mechanism to steer the wheels, they decided to sell the cars." - not a yank in sight.....sorry!
the bonzo dog , down on Jollity Farm on,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:09,
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Ever heard of Henry Ford??That name ring a bell at all? The guy that invented the assembly line? The transmission?
He was the one to invent the automobile AS WE KNOW IT... better? BTW, he released the FIRST automobile (without horses) in 1896.
If it helps, here's a simple biography.
inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blford.htm?terms=Henry+Ford
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Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:24,
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He was the one to invent the automobile AS WE KNOW IT... better? BTW, he released the FIRST automobile (without horses) in 1896.
If it helps, here's a simple biography.
inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blford.htm?terms=Henry+Ford
WankerYou're thinking no doubt of Ford? That may have been the first example of mass production in automotive production but you are very, very wrong. Buy an encyclopedia. A children's one with pretty colour pictures should do nicely.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:26,
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Should I provide some more links?Or would you prefer that I draw you a pretty picture with crayons?
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:30,
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From your own fucking link you tagnut:The first car manufacturers in the world were French: Panhard & Levassor (1889) and Peugeot (1891). By car manufacturer we mean builders of entire motor vehicles for sale and not just engine inventors who experimented with car design to test their engines - Daimler and Benz began as the latter before becoming full car manufacturers and made their early money by licensing their patents and selling their engines to car manufacturers.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:37,
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What did you not understand aboutclarification I made above? "As we know it today"... do you get that? He was the first person to make vehicles available to the common man. If it weren't for Ford, the automobile would be as widespread as jet aircraft. Plenty of them around for businesses and the extremely rich, but you can't afford one.
Can I make it any clearer? Possibly use smaller words?
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Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:52,
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Can I make it any clearer? Possibly use smaller words?
Very childishHaving realised that the argument is lost, it is in particularly poor sport to redefine your initial statement. It is also a bemusing strategy on a blog where the whole argument is laid bare. I refer you to my initial post.
EDIT - Shit - I didn't think you'd be as low as to go back and edit your initial argument. Pussy.
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Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:00,
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EDIT - Shit - I didn't think you'd be as low as to go back and edit your initial argument. Pussy.
Nearly as childish asdouble posting, straying from the point I was trying to make in my initial post, and looking so closely for things to misinterpret that you miss the fact that I ammended my statement before you posted initially.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:05,
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Not to mention childish name callingAnd I didn't edit my initial post, I ammended it with an second post.
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Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:12,
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The reason asian drivers seem bad over hereHaving spent a bunch of time in Taiwan recently I can explain why immigrant asian drivers seem bad over here. First off you have to understand in Taiwan at least (maybe not so much Japan but definately mainland China as well) there are a zillion scooters whizzing around at all times and nobody pays much attention to the lines on the road or the "rules" really at all because if you did you would never get anywhere. They drive slow so that they can react quickly if something jumps out of a side street. Now over here (Europe, North America) mostly follow the rules of the road so we can drive a lot faster. It's more of a cultural thing - not just that they can't see over the dash (although I love that effect when it looks like the car is driving itself)
If you took a good driver here and dropped them in a car in Taipei they would probably be considered a bad driver and get in quite a few accidents until they adapted as well
(If you took a good driver here and dropped them in a car in Taipei they would probably be considered a bad driver and get in quite a few accidents until they adapted as well
nocarrier,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:40,
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I can understand that.When I was in the military, I had to drive a military Hummer through residential japanese streets...
They probably thought I was a maniac, since the vehicle was as wider than the lane, the steering wheel was on the left side, and I drove at standard American speeds.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:49,
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They probably thought I was a maniac, since the vehicle was as wider than the lane, the steering wheel was on the left side, and I drove at standard American speeds.
None of us are saying that any of that was goodor that it never happened.
( Baz Fuck off,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:32,
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oh yeahI'm not saying we wern't bad IN THE PAST.
But seem to have taken over the mantle - doesn't mean it isn't still wrong.
And Henry Ford sold trucks to hitler - yeah bad innit.. just as guilty.
Some of us however would like to stop the circle of violence and destruction. Not escalate it to support our ailling weapons sales, ensure that the 25% people who use 65% of the world resources can continue raping the planet. Don't accuse me personally of being bad - I said YOUR GOVERNMENT.
They are wrong not necessarily you, but what has been done by many people is wrong. That is a FACT.
(But seem to have taken over the mantle - doesn't mean it isn't still wrong.
And Henry Ford sold trucks to hitler - yeah bad innit.. just as guilty.
Some of us however would like to stop the circle of violence and destruction. Not escalate it to support our ailling weapons sales, ensure that the 25% people who use 65% of the world resources can continue raping the planet. Don't accuse me personally of being bad - I said YOUR GOVERNMENT.
They are wrong not necessarily you, but what has been done by many people is wrong. That is a FACT.
Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:36,
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There is something you fail to realize in all of this though.Americans are British, Irish, Scottish, French, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Spanish, Iraqi, Portughese, Icelandic, Norweigan, German, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Iranian, etc...
America is the world.
(America is the world.
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:46,
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Americans are Americanexcept for recent immigrants who make up less than 2% of the population (CIA Factbook)
Just cos your great-grandfather was Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican doesn't make you Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican...
(Just cos your great-grandfather was Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican doesn't make you Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican...
thirdman Ia! Ia! R'lyeh Cthulhu ftagn! Ia! Ia! Mglui nafl,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:51,
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Of course that only counts legal immigrantsNot the thousands of Mexicans that hop the border every month, or people immigrating with "student visas" then vanishing into the background when their visa is getting ready to expire, or boatloads of cubans and chinese...
Of course, the vast majority of American residents were born in the US, but raised by first of second generation immigrants with traditions dating back to ancestral countries. We don't squash those as effectively or frequently as Europeans do...
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:33,
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Of course, the vast majority of American residents were born in the US, but raised by first of second generation immigrants with traditions dating back to ancestral countries. We don't squash those as effectively or frequently as Europeans do...
or likes to think it isin reality you have worse ghettos now than 30 years ago.
Integration? Oh fuck off.
Britain isn't just white anglosaxons you know.
If the USA is the world - We are well and truly FUCKED.
Thrown out of the Human rights commission of the UN for more Human Rights abuses than ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
Refused to let UN inspectors in to check the votes when Bush came to power, yet used their power in the UN to force that on many other countries.
Any more?? What about your poution abuses, backed out of a treaty that every other country in the world had signed.
Grr. Don't try that tack either.
(Integration? Oh fuck off.
Britain isn't just white anglosaxons you know.
If the USA is the world - We are well and truly FUCKED.
Thrown out of the Human rights commission of the UN for more Human Rights abuses than ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
Refused to let UN inspectors in to check the votes when Bush came to power, yet used their power in the UN to force that on many other countries.
Any more?? What about your poution abuses, backed out of a treaty that every other country in the world had signed.
Grr. Don't try that tack either.
Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:55,
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With this...I have not disagreed.
But your desensitization on something Americans feel a strong connection to is immoral and down-right rude.
Bush is a tweunt... plain and simple. And all that fucking war has to do with is the fact that Saddam tried to kill his father.
It's retarted. Don't call ALL of us baby killers, because we're not.
(But your desensitization on something Americans feel a strong connection to is immoral and down-right rude.
Bush is a tweunt... plain and simple. And all that fucking war has to do with is the fact that Saddam tried to kill his father.
It's retarted. Don't call ALL of us baby killers, because we're not.
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:10,
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Except that if you're a 'British American' and you have both passports, it is *illegal* to travel to the US on the other one.You *must* travel on your US passport.
This is like saying, I don't mind what you call yourself in private, in public you must wave the flag and do the dance. Hardly tolerent is it.
You see, all the Americans I know say that this is fine, after all if you are a dual-national then of course you'd want to reject the non-American bit.
Funnily enough, everyone else thinks it's jingoistic nonsense.
P.S. My G.F. is dual national (IRE/US) which is why I know this.
(This is like saying, I don't mind what you call yourself in private, in public you must wave the flag and do the dance. Hardly tolerent is it.
You see, all the Americans I know say that this is fine, after all if you are a dual-national then of course you'd want to reject the non-American bit.
Funnily enough, everyone else thinks it's jingoistic nonsense.
P.S. My G.F. is dual national (IRE/US) which is why I know this.
Hagbard ... it's been a long time.,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:55,
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Then why is it so difficultto travel to Britain and get a job?
( Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:57,
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What?You appear to have missed the point of that post entirely ...
( Hagbard ... it's been a long time.,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:00,
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America is not "the world".Being an American, I assure you that this is a huge stretch... Americans might have ancestral ties to the rest of the world, but that means nothing in the big picture. I'd even hesitate to call the UN 'the world'. Granted, Hollywood has helped infiltrate American culture and ideals into the rest of the world, but we can't claim to be representative.
(,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:29,
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Or here's oneRoosevelt knew about the impending attack on Pearl Harbour and had their modern aircraft carriers moved to a different location and replaced them with out of date battleships.
He willingly let Americans die so that the rest of the American population would agree with his decision to go to war, so he wouldn't have to make an unpopular decision.
(He willingly let Americans die so that the rest of the American population would agree with his decision to go to war, so he wouldn't have to make an unpopular decision.
fishsticks,
Fri 10 Oct 2003, 15:19,
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