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# Wooo
I hated that movie!
But id go see that version...
Just randomly... do you consider here to be public... that kitten person annoyed my so much I had to go say bad things about them
(but I was restrained)
The stupid twat its just so Daft to start something like that...
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:12, archived)
# Um
wtfayboa?

Edit: Oh I see wtfyaboa now. No bother, move along.
(I helped save b3ta! magnum, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:17, archived)
# A bloke is claiming ownership rights to no hands!
simplyspiffing.com/~nohands/

and

www.elsewhere.org/gm/archives/00000742.html

EDIT. Ha ha. His site's down!
(I helped save b3ta! Netspore, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:24, archived)
# Site's back up, thanks.
And neither I nor Jake are claiming ownership of nohands - he was a foster kitten and I have no idea who he belongs to now. The _photo_ of nohands, however, was definitely taken by Jake. And since he doesn't care how people use it, it's effectively in the public domain. But not because it was posted on a web site. _That's_ the point I'm trying to make. Internet != Public Domain.

Christ. If I can get the people who live in that apartment now to let me in and take a picture of the windowsill, would that prove anything? Or would people just claim that I'd faked it?
(elsewhere, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 19:28, archived)
# I do hope you don't mean
that you just wandered onto another messageboard and flamed them?
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:21, archived)
# NO!!
Not flamed them!
Just said that it was daft to claim ownership... and be totaly unable to back that up!
I dont flame...
But i've seen you flame the odd new person havent I?
Pot and kettle dearie.
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:24, archived)
# Up yer arse cockswabber.
No no no ... can't have been me.
I'm just a bit wary of inter-board flaming wars ... I've seen boards and usenet groups rendered effectively unusable when that happens.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:28, archived)
# Thread #847634- GOD I HATE THOSE X BOARD IDIOTS
Y BOARD IS THE BEST!

X board user: OMG U ALL SUCK! I HATE YOU!

imagine this for 5 pages, in twenty or so threads.

aaaargh.
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:30, archived)
# It makes me wanna kill them
Or crash their board...
Yes I have seen interboard wars.
they are such a pain in the ass
some people never learn
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:33, archived)
# i recall a great one between b3ta
and some boy racer car owner's site.

"your all gay" was the kind of thing
(I helped save b3ta! muteboy, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:35, archived)
# about ten years ago
I watched something like alt.lesbian.vegan and a handful of hindu vegetarian newsgroups dragged into a discussion about whether vegetarians were actually child abusers if they didn't feed their children good healthy american beef.
Very pretty. Some twats really can't comprehend that the people on the other side of the ascii are actually people.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:39, archived)
# american beef
with it's nutritious hormones and steroids to help your children grow

and grow

and grow

and.. jesus!
(I helped save b3ta! muteboy, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:41, archived)
# american beef has jesus in it?
oooh
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:55, archived)
# www.
meatshake.com
(steveeeee, Wed 25 Feb 2004, 1:34, archived)
# Yeah he is a twat
But as nobody else has claimed ownership, and nobody has made any money out of it.

What is he complaining about!

Tell everyone it's his cat. Fine. Tell people to stop using the picture, that's just petty. He should be pleased something of his has become so popular!
(I helped save b3ta! Netspore, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:22, archived)
# he does have a point though
still, I like to rebel against little things for no particular reason, so I'll just be joining this side of the argument
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:29, archived)
# Which side?
the one were we get to use no hands?
Or the one where we dont?
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:31, archived)
# where we do
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:32, archived)
# and what point is that?
(Mr. Partyhat, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:33, archived)
# that there are copyright rules
(1, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:34, archived)
# Well
Why did the twat not do it to start with?
could have saved a bit of aggro
but he would have got rid of some of the world fluffyness.
I need to get some sleep...
(I helped save b3ta! Giant bunny jumping out like a large happy tourettes rabbit, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:37, archived)
# To give him the benefit of the doubt*
he could well have put a copyright notice on the original image when it first slipped onto the web. That doesn't stop somebody else from copying it and posting it somewhere like ratemykitten.

(I think nohands is overrated anyway - clive is far superior)

(* = to drag this argument out until it drops into the archives)
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 10:45, archived)
# Except that's not how copyright works
You don't have to put a copyright notice on something for it to be copyrighted. See www.bitlaw.com/copyright/obtaining.html for more information, particularly the "Automatic Creation" paragraph. Since 1978, a copyright notice has only been a formality, not actually required.
(elsewhere, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 19:23, archived)
# A point in every direction
is the same as no point at all.
(A Wooden Leg Named Smith, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 13:15, archived)
# wow
deep
(I helped save b3ta! manolith hooray for me, Wed 25 Feb 2004, 16:00, archived)
# I never told anybody to stop using the picture.
Where in my post did I tell anybody to stop using the picture? I pointed out that posting something to the internet is not the same thing as putting it in the public domain, and that resources exist for finding out how to get permission to use material in derivative works. I never said that anyone should stop using the image, because I know that the person who took the original photo doesn't care, and occasionally gets a kick out of seeing his kitten photo used in a good photoshop job or flash animation.
(elsewhere, Tue 24 Feb 2004, 19:18, archived)