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i feel pretty defeated

i want to be able to smoke
but i can't

i've been repressed, and no-one can give me a good enough reason why

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:46, archived)

You're a white heterosexual male

You don't know anything about repression.

Why can't you smoke outside?

(Pachey, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:48, archived)

i've got ginger hair,

i know all about repression.

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ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:49, archived)

this!!

calling some ginger IS AS racist as calling a nigerian a coon

but it's all about who shouts loudest in this world

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:56, archived)

oh apparently it isn't

as the important parties like to draw a distinction

personally I call the "rudeness due to genetic differences" to be one thing

but it's all about socially acceptable rudeness isn't it, as you say, those who shout loudest

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discomeats This canoe, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:12, archived)

white hetrosexual men are the scapegoats of the twenty first century

who do you depict commiting crime when you don't want to offend a minority?
a white hetro male
thanks for that, i don't mind really

of course i'm not a Ugandan Refugee
my life is pretty easy,
but who is commiting the genocide in our modern times?
i can't say, i might be called racist
where does all the red nose money go?
not to the people that need it, but to the corrupt in power
be they white black or whatever

it's not race against race, it's those with power agianst those without
and that's what a lot of people miss

yes there were black slaves, but there just as many white ones too
so why should we as a race appolagise for something
the elitist scum of yesteryear forced on ALL OF US?

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:54, archived)

you need a nice relaxing fag mate

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Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:57, archived)

it's exactly where i'm going

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:59, archived)

I think you're missing the point

It's not about apologising for slavery.

(Pachey, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:59, archived)

i'm just ranting

i don't care what the point is

i'm going to smoke :) catch me if you can!!!

*wheezes*

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:01, archived)

You rant away sweetie :)

(Pachey, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:03, archived)

at the end of the day

in a country with the highest child poverty in europe
is worrying about smoking the biggest problem on our government's list of things to do?

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:06, archived)

Your point is well made

I just don't think the smoking ban is worth getting upset over.

(Pachey, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:11, archived)

i'm just spending 10 mins getting it all off my chest

at the end of the day, as long as i'm not chased by riot squads for sparking up, i don't care

i wonder what will happen in other euro countries though
like the coffee shops of Amsterdam
banning smoking in those would be mental!

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:18, archived)

it's simpler to pretend to temporarily fix a problem thus solving the issue forever

then to actually deal with reality

and if you'll excuse me, I have to plaster my town with WHERE'S MADDIE posters

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discomeats This canoe, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:15, archived)

ha ha!!

i like smoke free pubs

i just don't know if i like the fact that as a smoker, i couldn't open a smoking pub just for smokers
it's the having the choice taken away that's scary
even private clubs, where everyone pays to join
surely they should have last say what happens

if they smoke and you don't like it, don't join shirly??

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:20, archived)

Go back to reading the Daily Express

(Cuthbert Annihilator, Thu 7 Jun 2007, 12:08, archived)

because it stinks you big smelly!!!

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ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:48, archived)

SO DOES YOUR CAR!!!!!

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:00, archived)

Surely

the main factor that's never really mentioned in these arguments is that smoking is addictive, and the free will of the person saying they "want" to smoke is limited in that respect, so the argument becomes less "It's repressing my free will" and more "it's forcing me to come to terms with my addiction"

/blurts out some random words

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The Neville What what what, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:51, archived)

At last, a voice of reason

And the argument about "it will force people to smoke at home in front of the kids" is also bollocks. The nature of the addiction is not such that if you smoke for an hour, you don't need one at home. If you smoke in the pub, then you already smoke at home...

(Super Jet Shoes, Thu 7 Jun 2007, 11:48, archived)

the government have deem that you don't have the right to smoke where you want to

so have made it more difficult for you in the hope you will stop.

even though you ahve an easy access point to get to your lungs, i don't think the NHS wants to open you up again.

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Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:52, archived)

but you could say that about so many things

so why just us??

why isn't macDonalds banned?
why isn't hard liquor banned?

it's one sided nonsense

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 11:59, archived)

it isn't banned

you just can't do it exactly where you want to... and unfortunatley I think it's natural progression and probably has as much to do with the amount of money generated by smoking going down naturally as it has to do with government's concern with health issues... if you'd been sitting in your office, 20 years ago, 25, you could have had a smoke at your desk quite nicely

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Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:00, archived)

it's to the very tip of being banned

push it any further and it will be illegal

illegal to do something as old as the human race itself
since we first discovered fire, we've smoked
and we've survived, we've lived on

but it doesn't fit the governments little view
of us all as battery hens, making sure they squeeze
every last tax drop out of my working bones
just so they can spend it on posh lunches in brighton

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The King of Hats Cone of shame, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:04, archived)

They won't ban it

it's a nice little earner

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fuscous, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:07, archived)

That's a falsehood

NHS spending due to smoking related illness outweighs taxation revenue. So, people die and taxpayers fund it.

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Carlossus, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 13:03, archived)

But it's for your own good.

Think of the children.

Besides, the rules of the game have changed.

*bokes*

(MSB Load universe into cannon. Aim at brain. Fire., Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:10, archived)

Rubbish - you can't smoke inside with a pint in your hand. So?

and the government which has been so strongly set against you throughout history has played a significant role in getting people to smoke, in the interest of the government at the expense of the people.

Also I don't think you can argue that smoking is as inate a human characteristic as, for example, making fire, music or whatever...

although apparently it is the reason why America speaks English rather than French or Spanish

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Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 12:11, archived)

Burp! 'scuse me!

If you eat McGonads or drink hard liquor in an enclosed space, it isn't going to affect anyone elses health.

If you smoke in an enclosed space, it will affect other peoples health. What gives you the right to inflict all the diseases associated with smoking on other poeple?

Smoke all you like, but don't force other people to smoke too.

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cantshopforshit, Thu 7 Jun 2007, 0:41, archived)